[SJPONeill]

What Don said on both counts...happy to share the pics I took on Olympia in May if that helps any designer...

Noting the significance of Olympia and the few remaining vessels from this era (anywhere), I am amazed that it is left to local initiatives to support her restoration and maintenance - I imagine that the budget expended in just deciding where the retired Space Shuttles will go would keep her 'afloat' for many years...