retro klingon fix

[sjsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Grif

Hmmm, darned if I know! What would give the impression of a predescessor of the 50s Enterprise? Anyone got any thoughts on this? The "Dan Dare" comic strip, although published in the 50s, had a "WWII bomber" look to a lot of its spaceships, but they usually were in bright primary colours, like red and yellow. For the WWII look, olive drab would look a bit...well...drab! A lot of American bombers from that era, ie, the "Superfortress", were in natural metal - what does everyone think?
Grif

The image that comes to my mind is something like this.

classic silver rocket ship 3d max

3 or 4 rocket shaped engines around some sort of core structure. In place of the enterprise dish, perhaps a sphere at the forward end of the central core. The shuttle bay doors at the rear would open in clamshell style, probably from side to side rather then top to bottom, those directions being pretty relative anyway of course. The image in my mind is clear enough that maybe I've actually seen it pictured somewhere.

That's my two cents.

Steve

[spaceagent-9]

kindo fo like josie and the pussy cats in outer space as a formula?
with rockets on the fins?

[spaceagent-9]

how about the back part of the rocket you posted, with a oval thick sauce on the front, and then a 'greenhouse' bomber nose window in front?
maybe in white and black?

[spaceagent-9]

here is a shot at what i could gather you were talking about.

[sjsquirrel]

Originally Posted by spaceagent-9

here is a shot at what i could gather you were talking about.

Yeah, that's the idea, but in my mind it was a complete sphere rather than a saucer. I like your idea of leaving the noise sticking out the front and the bomber style windows.

Steve

[spaceagent-9]

during my morning coffee i drew this up, is this what you mean, please keep suggesting refinements!

[Grif]

Well, I think we need the saucer section to make it a recognisable "Enterprise" - I grant that the original concept for the "Enterprise" had a sphere - it's now called the "Daedalus" class in Treklore! I'd go for making the upper two nacelles the engines and the lower one some sort of hanger bay - hey, how about the lower nacelle having the "bomber-style" nose and the saucer/sphere having a sort of "bay window" at the front for a bridge, or perhaps a "greenhouse roof" at the top of the saucer/sphere?
Grif

[sjsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Grif

Well, I think we need the saucer section to make it a recognisable "Enterprise" - I grant that the original concept for the "Enterprise" had a sphere - it's now called the "Daedalus" class in Treklore!

Well there ya go! I said the image in my mind was clear enough I'd maybe seen it somewhere.

Originally Posted by Grif

I'd go for making the upper two nacelles the engines and the lower one some sort of hanger bay - hey, how about the lower nacelle having the "bomber-style" nose and the saucer/sphere having a sort of "bay window" at the front for a bridge, or perhaps a "greenhouse roof" at the top of the saucer/sphere?
Grif

Attached is a scan of the sketch I did of my idea.

[spaceagent-9]

i see,............and you prefer the closed tip top rocket nose in metallic?

[Grif]

you prefer the closed tip top rocket nose in metallic?

I'd advocate an "upside-down" arrangement to your idea, sjsquirrel - to give it the "Trek" look. I think the two nacelles which are warp engines should have the "Bussard collector" nose; but then, if this is to be the "predescessor" ship to the '50s Enterprise, which had 1950s style intakes on its nacelles, then maybe something like the cowlings on a WWII bomber? Humongous big rocket exhausts are a must, in my opinion.

Gosh, I feel like a fake and a fraud here, commenting from the sidelines when I can't design anything myself!

Grif