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kampfflieger
05-05-2008, 04:41 AM
Added Luft'46 models:

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/realysanders/1/luft46/luft46-web.jpg

1/32 Blohm und Voss P.175
1/48 Hutter Hu-136 Stubo I
1/48 Messerschmitt Me-334

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Royaloakmin
05-05-2008, 06:58 AM
Good to see these. Does the ME 334 have an interior? Always one of my favorite x-craft.

kampfflieger
05-05-2008, 07:56 AM
Good to see these. Does the ME 334 have an interior? Always one of my favorite x-craft.

Yes, it have. Cockpit and wheel wells:)

Alcides
05-05-2008, 09:04 AM
Always nice to see new luft46 stuff.

Roman the stubo has been updated? Because I've this model.

Luis

kampfflieger
05-05-2008, 10:20 AM
Roman the stubo has been updated? Because I've this model.

Hi Luis!

No, Stubo the same.

Roman.

Fozzy The Bear
05-05-2008, 05:40 PM
Added Luft'46 models:

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/realysanders/1/luft46/luft46-web.jpg



I'm very confused by these German X-Planes..... There seem to be an awful huge variety of them. Yet as far as I'm aware 99% of these designs were never actually built, and a lot of them don't even apear to have been complete designs either. What were they?? Where are these designs coming from?? are they for real or are they from some subsequent post war imagination of what might have been??

Many of them seem to have design features that were not developed until well after WWII. Some of them into the 1950's and 1960's.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

dansls1
05-05-2008, 06:21 PM
My understanding of Luft '46 is taking prototype and design ideas from late WW2 Germany and developing them into what they could / might have been (in most cases - a few of them actually were developed to some extent). So often when you see design features that came along later, some Axis engineer had the idea, penciled it out, it got left behind, then later at some point it got developed into a full idea. I believe that all the Luft '46 exists at the least in concept drawings though, so they were all real ideas - if not real planes.
(Please correct me if I'm wrong ;) ).

CharlieC
05-05-2008, 06:24 PM
I agree with your sentiments. After a bit of thought I've come to some conclusions.....

- The Luft46 site should be considered as a catalogue of design studies derived from the (huge) mass of captured documents seized at the end of WW2.

- The German aircraft industry doesn't seem to have driven by tendering to official specifications like the UK and US industry.

- There seems to have been a lot of design activity which was devoted to attracting political patronage, usually in terms of a "super" weapon, rather than meeting the real needs of the Luftwaffe.

- This apparently disorganised activity probably helped the Allies in that effort was wasted in pursuing cute (and mad) ideas rather than focusing on useful designs.

I think there is a need for historical research to move on from cataloguing to putting the Luft46 designs in their political/military context although this would probably be a difficult enterprise.

Regards,

Charlie

shrike
05-05-2008, 06:39 PM
Much of the design activity was also initiated by designers, engineers and draughtsmen to show the regime that they were much more useful working on the next wonder than they were toting a satchel of grenades.

Stev0
05-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Definitely a 'Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained' attitude taken towards designs.

Lex
05-07-2008, 07:09 AM
WE LOVE LUFT'46! :D --Yes Julian I think all of them are documented by German engineers, whether they have took off from drawing board is another question.

ringmaster
05-07-2008, 10:27 PM
I just ordered my Me-334
Please draw up and send me these ASAP :
http://www.luft46.com/luftart.html