The new World Trade Center complex

[Jerry V]

I had build a model of the World Trade Center some years before I joined papermodelers.com, some of you might have seen it in Yogi's topic here http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/architectural-models/15965-world-trade-center-set.html.

I had tried to design a model of the new WTC myself some time ago, but I couldn't get it right. So I was glad when Yogi pointed this new set out.
I had printed this set during this week and finally got it out the right way.
due to work (yes, finally after two years I am back at work) and other activities I didn't come to start building this model earlier then today.

And what better way to start this building with WTC building 1 formerly known as the Freedom Tower;

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/NewWTC1.jpg

I have printed two sets of the base so I can make some changes to it like adding depth. It will also be attached to a more stiffer base later.

Unfortunately this set isn't designed in the same scale as the earlier set, so, perhaps I will rebuild my earlier model in a downscaled version, to match the scale.

Jerry

[Jerry V]

I had build a model of the World Trade Center some years before I joined papermodelers.com, some of you might have seen it in Yogi's* topic here http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/architectural-models/15965-world-trade-center-set.html.



*This offcourse must be Retired for now's topic, my mistake, unfortunately I was unable to edit the post.

Jerry

[jimkrauzlis]

Very, VERY nice, Jerry!

Are you planning on building the other buildings that will make up this new complex?

Please keep us updated at you continue with this build...you may also want to check out some variations to some of the buildings as they are still underconstruction so the final building might be slightly different when finally completed.

Cheers!
Jim

[Jubotron2060]

Hi Jerry

Could you post a link to the site where the model of the new World Trade center is located?

[jimkrauzlis]

*This offcourse must be Retired for now's topic, my mistake, unfortunately I was unable to edit the post.

Jerry


Yogi IS Retired for Now, or maybe I didn't understand your comment....

Here are a few links I found:

New WTC Paper Model Help. - SkyscraperCity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1438791)

New York City Skyscraper Models - SkyscraperCity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1185583&highlight)=

SkyscraperModels.us - Model Gallery (http://www.skyscrapermodels.us/models/model_main.html)

Cheers!
Jim

[Jerry V]

Thanks for the comments,

Yes I had noticed that Retired for Now was Yogi after I had put up my 2nd comment, but I could not remove it anymore, so I let it the way it was.

Yes, I am indeed planning on building the entire complex, I had the other buildings printed out as well. And I will continue building in or during the next couple of days.

@ Jubotron, the 2nd link that Jim has posted is where I got my model.

Jerry

[peter taft]

Jerry, this is going to be wonderful. Look forward to seeing this venture come to life - this represents the memory of LIFE lost, and a NEW beginning ! Thank you.

[Retired_for_now]

Great looking start, Jerry. I got depth in the pools by just cutting out the footprints on the base, laminating several layers of cereal box card under the base and cutting out the pools, then gluing the footprint pool cutouts to another layer of card and laminating that to the bottom. Used a silver sharpie to color the cut edges for the inner pool walls - sorta like a water curtain. Didn't go any further for the innermost section of the pool.
Yogi

[Jerry V]

Thank you Peter, but credit does not go to me, I am just the one building the model.
If Yogi didn't post the link it might have been a while before I had found out about the new set. ;)

Thanks Yogi, also for the tip about adding depth to the pools, I had something similar in mind.

Jerry

[peter taft]

Thank you Peter, but credit does not go to me, I am just the one building the model.
If Yogi didn't post the link it might have been a while before I had found out about the new set. ;)

Thanks Yogi, also for the tip about adding depth to the pools, I had something similar in mind.

Jerry

Indeed it does Jerry, but "Just the one building the model" you aren't just building a model here, this is so much more than that - and in your most capable hands, this will be excellent. I also thank Yogi too, and for the idea for depth - Thank You.

[jimkrauzlis]

Thank you Peter, but credit does not go to me, I am just the one building the model.
If Yogi didn't post the link it might have been a while before I had found out about the new set. ;)

Thanks Yogi, also for the tip about adding depth to the pools, I had something similar in mind.

Jerry

Indeed, just the one building the model...:) We all know there is a bit more than just that, especially having seen your other work!

I am really looking forward to seeing your build on this one as I have this one on the to do list as well. I am particularly interested in seeing how the pools come out, that should be very striking!

It seems there are a few possible designs on the new buildings, and even one of the new Freedom Tower showing it under construction! I like the version Yogi posted the best, however. Yogi, did you have a model of the visitor center? If so, I didn't see any link for that building anywhere, although I did see an interesting design for the transit hub....

Cheers!
Jim

[Jerry V]

Thanks for the comments, well perhaps I am mistaken, and this build might indeed be more than "just a model", I must agree on that, normally I am not into building architectural builds myself. But this is something different.

Today I have added the two simpeler buildings, the performing arts center, and the 7th building of the complex, since they were the most basic formed buildings;

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2512.jpg

While looking on the base, I, as Jim had noticed, also found out, there indeed was no model for the visitor centre, and since we're on it, how did you tackle the transit hub Yogi?

With regards,

Jerry

[Retired_for_now]

It was pretty rudimentary on my part - hoping to hide in the small scale ...
For the visitors center, I laminated a chunk of card and cut out the top outline of the visitors' center based on the info (pix, concept drawings) at the official WTC site - || World Trade Center || (http://www.wtc.com/) . The topmost layer is not glued on the northeast corner so I could bend it up to mimic the reality. Hand colored the glass sides/top (a bit too blue, sorry).
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For the transpo hub, I laminated several layers of card between the two curved bits and glued the spines (or whatever is the right term for those - ribs?) underneath. I did not even try to separate the individual ribs at this scale.
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Also, did not add in the two small buildings on the SW side (maintenance access?).

Yogi (it's a way, maybe not the right way ...)

[jimkrauzlis]

Well, I think it worked out really nicely, Yogi. Thank you for the explanation.

Shaping up real nice there, Jerry!

Cheers!
Jim

[Retired_for_now]

Sorry for the rough enlargements but the original is many miles away so no new pix.

[Jerry V]

Thanks for the pics Yogi, I was thinking about perhaps creating a small papermodel of it using this image if found later this afternoon;

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/05/18/arts/19wtc_slide1.jpg

But I am having troubles installing my Coreldraw cd, perhaps I´ll have to try working with another programm.

Jerry

[Jerry V]

Thanks Jim, only I must honestly say, I had some trouble with the roofs fitting tight.

[Retired_for_now]

Jerry,
I'd recheck that image. The official site has this National 9/11 Memorial & Museum || WTC Renderings || Images || World Trade Center || (http://www.wtc.com/media/images/s/the-vision-national-9-11-memorial--and--museum) and Memorial || Construction || Images || World Trade Center || (http://www.wtc.com/media/images/s/wtc-construction-memorial) .

http://www.wtc.com/media/images/r/8_45_Aerial-View-of-Memorial-Quadrant-Rendering-by-Squared-Design-Lab.jpg

The new 1WTC/Freedom Tower would be off to the bottom left in this rendering from the WTC website.

I modified several of the roof attachments. Where possible, I put tabs on the top of the tower sides and glued the roof (minus any tabs) to that. For Tower 2's sloping roof sections, I kept the tab on the roof piece for the longest, lower side - added tabs to the other sides of the building, then trimmed the roof as needed (I recall they were all a bit large). Don't recall any specific problems with the other towers.
Yogi

[Jerry V]

Yogi,

Thanks for the new image, hadn´t seen that one yet. I think it looks better then the one I posted. Also thanks for the tip, I think I will try to build WTC 2, tomorrow. I believe the smaller dark strips are there to connect the four individual towers?

Jerry

[peter taft]

Some great work in both design and build here. I thank you for putting the pictures here of the memorial - what an excellent way the designer went on this !

[Retired_for_now]

Jerry,
Tower 2 builds as four outer columns joined by a cross shaped inner core. The four smaller pieces make up that inner cross-shaped core - a wide, flat box with the two smaller ones glued outside. I used tabs at the tops of the lower core parts on the wide side pieces (tabs not scored or bent) and left out the flat flaps to help align the modules rather than build them up and try to glue the flat bottom/top together straight. Not sure if that approach was any better than the one the designer intended but it worked.
Take some time dry fitting the modules to get the alignment right and think about the assembly order. As I recall, one of the upper triangular pieces of the core will need some coloring as one side that should have been textured was not. Studying the pictures on the WTC site is well worth the time.
I think I glued up the inner wide flat core and one side core, then glued on the corresponding outer pieces to make a kind of half-building. It was easier to keep the joins tight without crushing the parts. I then added the remaining inner inner core piece and the other two outer columns.
It's more obvious that it sounds once you have the four flat pieces of the inner core and the outer columns to look at.
Yogi

[Jerry V]

Well I encountered a problem while building tower two.

The "cross section" parts are larger then the towers itself.
So I'll have to reprint one of them.

My wtc 7 building is about 7 cm's high,
the performing arts center is 3,5 cm's
The Freedom tower's lengt from base to flat roof is 22 cm's, what should be the length of tower 2?

Now the towers itself are 14 cm's at highest point, should they be larger, or should the "crossection" (which is longer) be shorter?

Any input is appreciated.

Jerry


EDIT: I found that the square box "Made by skyscraper 144" should be at the same size at all pages..

[Retired_for_now]

Now that's unique - signature elements as the "scale bar." And boy, do I wish I'd noticed that - still, better to be lucky than good any day.
According to www.wtc.com (http://www.wtc.com) tower one will be 1776 feet (includes a 408 ft tower) to the top of the spire, tower two 1349 feet (assume that includes an 80 ft tripod antenna). So the proportion (roof to roof) should be 1269/1368 or 99%. The towers are just about the same height. Most artist's renderings show tower two to be a bit shorter, but still at least 95% the height of tower one looking at their rooftops, not spires.

Yogi

From the above WTC site
Tower 1 = 1776' (with 408ft antenna spire)
Tower 2 = 1349' (with 80ft antenna)
Tower 3 = 1155' (data from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center )
Tower 4 = 977'
Tower 7 = 741'
Didn't find a height for the Arts Center

[Jerry V]

Thanks, I have reprinted the parts this afternoon, I will continue building this model soon.

Jerry

[Jerry V]

The last couple of days I have been building the parts to tackle building two.

These are the parts:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2531.jpg

As you can see, I had some trouble fitting the roofs on these columns.

Then I build the cross-section and added the four columns, I also encountered the same problem, a part of the cross section seems to be wrong., to high to be fitted, or did I do something wrong? If I shorten and turn the piece, it will be facing the wrong direction..;

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2532.jpg

Then the small grey building, I think it goes at the back, as it can be seen set to the towers on the base;

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2533.jpg

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2534.jpg

As you can see, the small part of the small building attached to the towers is also a bit to small.

I am thinking about adding some card inside the columns or the cross-section to get some stiffer buildings.

Note that the buildings are not yet attached to the base.

Jerry

[Retired_for_now]

Jerry,
One of the top triangles does go on facing the "wrong" direction. I think that's the one that needs some texturing. Set the wide flat piece up with the high point away from you. The short piece will go on the right with its tip against the wide part. The remaining piece goes on the left with its highest tip away from the center. The tops of the inner flat cores mirror the tops of the columns.
If the model still looks like your second picture, just put in the remaining little piece with its high tip to the outside (back) of the tower. Color the outside with a dark gray pencil if needed. It will blend right in.
Yogi (lots of dry fitting before assembly ...)

[Jerry V]

Thanks for your comments Yogi, I had attached the pieces today, I had some out of scale printed parts from tower two, I will take a piece of texture and paste it on the untextured part.

Today I had build tower four, it sure would have been nice to have a sheet of instructions, but then I would have noticed it would have been easier to fit the triangular roof in, before closing the building. But I managed.

Also while building I noticed that I had forgotten to print both sheets containing parts of tower three, so I had to stop building. So I had to fit in the 2nd sheet and scale it to the same size to make it fit, the made me wish they had released the model in a single file, like PDF..

Well, this gives me some time to think about designing a model for the visitor center and how to tackle the transportation hub, I have made all the cuts allready..

Tower four added to the complex:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2535.jpg

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2536.jpg

Jerry

[Jerry V]

Today I have been building tower three, but I have a feeling it is slightly off scale, being a bit to small(?)

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2537.jpg

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd138/JerryAWE/CIMG2538.jpg?t=1317144549

Jerry

[Retired_for_now]

Nice job on three - but I think you're right. Three should be taller than four, just about split the difference between two and four (numbers in post #23).
Yogi

[Skyscrapers144]

Hey I was googling some WTC images and this page came up and wow I love those. I see you made my 2WTC I made. :) I'm actually working on the whole site.