Su-27 family серийных истребителей Су-27.

[MiG-23MLD]

Here is my tribute to the Su-27 family in future days i will show you a couple of more of Su-27s derivatives and variants i have made but here i present you my Su-30MKI.


A person who knows well the Su-30MKI will find several unaccuracies in my model in terms of proportion, however the model more or less follows the Su-30MKI lines accurately

[John Bowden]

Wow....... That's pretty neat. Do you do these by scratch?

[Kaz]

This family of aircraft are so aesthetically pleasing to the eye, and you have done them a teriffic justice. Great work!

[MiG-23MLD]

Wow....... That's pretty neat. Do you do these by scratch?
Yes i do.

i will show you a couple of Su-27 variants i have made through the years

[MiG-23MLD]

This family of aircraft are so aesthetically pleasing to the eye, and you have done them a teriffic justice. Great work!

Thanks
However if you look i made a mistake in the relation of the tailplanes and the engine nozzles, the real Su-30MKI has longer jet pipes aligned to the tailplanes; also another mistake i made was the aircraft has a too sharp radome a little bit bigger than the original design and the LERXes seen from the bottom do not merge with the fuselage forebody as in my model do.

The Best Su-27s variants i have made are the Su-34 and Su-27B and a Su-30MKK

[John Bowden]

Have you done your namesake?

http://www.dgapapermodels.com/My%20Drawings/MiG%2023%20MLD.jpg

[MiG-23MLD]

Have you done your namesake?

http://www.dgapapermodels.com/My%20Drawings/MiG%2023%20MLD.jpg


I love the MiG-23 and MiG-25, but like the beautiful F-14 and F-15 are models i have not made they are very difficult, the main reason is the canopy, that is why i am in this forum to learn new technics.


In fact i can only make the F-16, F-18, Su-27/30/33KUB/34 and F-111 with ease.

here i leave you a Su-34 and Su-27UB, the Su-34 is an early model so it is not the best Su-34 i have made but it is still more or less okay it has some mistakes too in proportion.

The Su-27UB has some mistakes too but it is okay in general terms.

[John Bowden]

Boy I tell you what......... I bet all you have to do is ask, there are plenty of folks here that are willing to help you out. (present company included!)

I too like the MiG-23 and 25 and would love to see what you can do with them!

Just give a shout out, you might be surprised at the response.

john

[MiG-23MLD]

Boy I tell you what......... I bet all you have to do is ask, there are plenty of folks here that are willing to help you out. (present company included!)

I too like the MiG-23 and 25 and would love to see what you can do with them!

Just give a shout out, you might be surprised at the response.

john
My problem with the MiGs is basicly the windshield frame, the rest i can do it.


The F-15 is a bit more complex but the F-14 is the king of difficulty for my its bubble canopy is too hard for me and its framed windshield is even harder.


Any way each aircraft presents different challenges

[MiG-23MLD]

A Su-27B and a Lavi.

The Lavi is a single seat, so basicly is an unreal aircraft, but probably is the configuration it would have had.

The main mistakes of the Su-27B are its forebody is too sharp and a bit narrow, making the canopy a bit bigger than it really is on a real Su-27B.

The Lavi well it is only one proposed configuration how it would have looked, so its free of mistakes beyond surface ruggedness.


Currently i am making a new Su-27B and i am trying to rectify such mistakes

[MiG-23MLD]

here is to compare both the Su-27 and Su-34

[MiG-23MLD]

Here is the best Su-34 i have ever made.


The only main drawback it has are the engine nacelles are a bit closer than the original aircraft but in general terms it is a good model

[birder]

Nice!
Those are great. You have saved the drawings somehow? Copy machine, anything, reminds me of my scratchbuilds I would copy, then color then copy at kinko's on cardstock, no computer at all! (its alot easier now!!):D
Just tweak your drawings until you get what you like then we can all make them?:)

[cgutzmer]

Are you having issues with the design of the canopy plastic or the framing. Maybe you are having problems with the actual forming of the plastic for the canopy?

If its the forming there are a couple tutorials out there for vacu-forming. Maybe those can help! Will see if I can find those links *grumble grumble* got em around here somewhere...
Chris

[Yu Gyokubun]

MiG-23MLD, all planes you have scratch-built looks really nice!!!

Cheers,

[MiG-23MLD]

Nice!
Those are great. You have saved the drawings somehow? Copy machine, anything, reminds me of my scratchbuilds I would copy, then color then copy at kinko's on cardstock, no computer at all! (its alot easier now!!):D
Just tweak your drawings until you get what you like then we can all make them?:)
No i have no drawings at all, i design them from scratch, that is what i think makes them so different from each other, for example i am building a new Su-27B, but basicly it won`t be a copy of the late one you have seen, i can be worse or it can be better in terms of accuracy, some things might be very similar due to the fact the brain can be trained to do similar cuts, but in general terms i can not make them copies of each one and the same to the earlier model.


i will show you later a few more pictures of the building process, once i build the inlets and wings of the new Su-27B, i have already built most of the fore fuselage and the engines.

[MiG-23MLD]

MiG-23MLD, all planes you have scratch-built looks really nice!!!

Cheers,
Thanks, YuG, i want to make the T-4 personally that is my favorite jet trainer of the 1980s, however i will build a He-162 from scratch so you can see the process i use from the begining, it is not so different from the way people here make aircraft.

My favorite Japanese aircraft are the Mitsubishi F1 and T2, the Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien, the Kawasaki T-4 and the Zero

I have been to Tokyo many times, but definitively to live in Japan the best place is Hokkaido, at least that is my personal opinion.

[scyg]

That's pretty stunning work, especially just "eyeballing" the design. I'd be very interested in seeing how you work.

[MiG-23MLD]

That's pretty stunning work, especially just "eyeballing" the design. I'd be very interested in seeing how you work.
here i leave you some steps in the process of building a new Su-27B, this Su-27 is now in building process so i will finish it most likely next week further more i let you see a very early Su-27 that i built several years ago

[Nir]

I think that no one in the world had design a LAVI paper model.
So your LAVI is very unique.

If you need a pictures of the LAVI, please send me a message.

[MiG-23MLD]

I think that no one in the world had design a LAVI paper model.
So your LAVI is very unique.

If you need a pictures of the LAVI, please send me a message.
Thanks very much. i have always liked the Lavi, but the Lavi i made was not the first, but to be honest i have not made a Lavi like the ones that were built.

The long canopy single seat TD demostrator or long canopy twin seats are the real Lavis that were built.

The ones i have built are based upon artistic impressions
like this one
http://www.airforceworld.com/fighter/gfx/lavi/lavi_1.jpg



This artistic rendition is the closest configuration to the model i made, if you want i can show you more or less how to make a Lavi, it is not dificult basicly i have now a F-16 fore fuselage and i can make it a Lavi for you and i can show you how i make it.

[Nir]

I thought to take the fuselage from the J-10 and just change the wings.
It will be interesting to try to build the single seated Lavi.
Send me a message.

[MiG-23MLD]

I thought to take the fuselage from the J-10 and just change the wings.
It will be interesting to try to build the single seated Lavi.
Send me a message.
I will tell you that my designs are hand made so they are not always completly repeatable.

However if you want to see how i make them is okay with me.
The single seat Lavi i guess is closer to the F-16 in either version the F-16A or F-16B.

If you take an F-16 such as the ones built by Milenio or YuG you will only need to modify the wings and canards.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSCN6710.JPG (http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1728) this is Milenio`s

http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/14_f16c_0002.JPG (http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=342) this is YuG`s


basicly the Lavi was that, a F-16 look alike modernized with tail first.
the real Lavi that were built are closer to the F-16B.

It is possible you can make a J-10-F-16 hybrid and make a Lavi that way, but the only aspects you will use from the J-10 is the canards.
i can show you three of my models later a Lavi, F-16 and J-10 i have made, tomorrow i can show you that picture.


The question about modifying a kit is something i have never made since my models are hand made, but i guess you can use for example a Gripen and F-16B paper kits to make a Lavi.

However the Lavi has different wings to a Gripen, so you can use a Su-27 wing or a modified Gripen wing.

I was planning to make an F-16 so i can modify it however since i am in the process of moving it is possible i can not show it to you every day and it might take 3 weeks or a month, since sometimes i am busy.

Here i leave you a few pictures of a Su-27 i am making and you can see the process of assembly.

I guess if you want to make a Lavi my way i have to show you how i do make the cockpit and the seats and in general the wings.

i can do it but it will take some time so just more or less see the process of the assembly of this Su-27 and i promise in two days you will see the process to make the Lavi canards and inlet it is quit easy but now i just have made the fore fuselage of an F-16.

In reality i can show you how to make the Lavi`s canopy it is not difficult but the problem i faced it was relatively too small for the seat, so its shape was okay but not its proportion.

If you can get an F-16B kit i guess it will do.

But if you follow my technique you will need some off the shelf items i usually use some wrappings of some products to make the canopy, so i do not know if you can get similar wrappings but here there are many people who can tell you other techniques my techniques i will share with you no problem, but since i use specific microphone plastic wrappings i do not know if you can get a similar product.

Besides i have not finished the Su-27 Flanker but i guess this week it will be finished, so i can start the Lavi this week or next.

If you are pacient i can show you how to make a long canopy Lavi like the real ones.
But please be pacient iam quit busy now but i guess in March it will be okay

[MiG-23MLD]

an update on a new Sukhoi Su-27B


It is still unfinished but soon it will be ready

[Yu Gyokubun]

To me it looks feat to replicate this seemingly complicated fuselage shape without using computer. I look forward to see how you build them.

[MiG-23MLD]

To me it looks feat to replicate this seemingly complicated fuselage shape without using computer. I look forward to see how you build them.
Thanks here is one of my favorite aircraft but it is not so accurate as i would have liked

It is the Su-33KUB the naval Flanker the side by side two seats trainer, a hybrid of the Su-33 and the Su-34
http://www.mycity.co.yu/imgs/56130_108054098_su33kub-7.jpg

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fighter/su33kub/su33kub-1.jpg

http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/padov/1650/s-3504.jpg

[MiG-23MLD]

Saddly i have to say that i lost most of my aircraft and the remaining are most in bad shape while moving:(

The lossses are:a Tu-160, a Su-33KUB, a Hokum, a Su-27, a S-54, a G-11, a Mitsubishi F1, a Lavi, two F-111s and an F-18E.

The survivors are a Su-27, a J-10B, a F-16, a Su-24, a F-111, two Su-34s, and the Shafaq i hope i can rebuild new aircraft soon.

Possible new models are a Lavi, a Su-24 and a real Ka-50 i hope by wednesday i can start building them.
I lost them because i could not carrying them in the airplane and my friends did not care about them when i carry them.

However i can rebuild some models. I hope i can find the way to make a F-15 and a MiG-23 besides probably a new Tu-160 and a Tu-22M

[redhorse]

Moving models has always been a bad experience for me. Good luck rebuilding!

[MiG-23MLD]

Moving models has always been a bad experience for me. Good luck rebuilding!
Thanks i hope i can build a Tu-22M or a F-15 i love those two planes