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John Wagenseil
01-30-2013, 07:39 PM
Ancient Japanese Festival Float.
I don't know if it is complete, if any one builds it please post a picture.

Pat_craft
01-31-2013, 01:12 AM
Many thanks for this model !!! I will build it !
Do you have any informations about it ? Date ? Author ?

Diderick A. den Bakker
01-31-2013, 03:07 AM
Ancient Japanese Festival Float.
I don't know if it is complete, if any one builds it please post a picture.

I'd like to have a go, but need a higher resolution scan?

Lighter
01-31-2013, 04:47 AM
I'd like to have a go, but need a higher resolution scan?

Did you click on through? It's two letter sheets.

Here is a direct link to the larger version.
http://bit.ly/XLpXym

Pat_craft
01-31-2013, 05:23 AM
Just start to build it...
But I have many problems with pieces (the rear parts, the deck, the sail...). Nothing seems to match. May be I choose a wrong way...

John Wagenseil
01-31-2013, 04:59 PM
I downloaded the original from here -

浮世絵検索システム - 検索結果 (http://www.dh-jac.net/db/arcnishikie/FMPro?-db=nishikie.fmj&-format=resultsp.htm&-lay=layout2&f00=%3d%8c%f6%8a%4a&f56=%91%e5%8d%e2&-max=30&-skip=1110&-find=)

I did not save the page, refinding this particular model, means sorting through over 1000 other prints.
As near as I can tell they are all mid to late 19th c. and mostly Kabuki themes. Information about the print date author and publisher is included on the web site in Japanese.

There is at least one other paper model on the site, which I previously posted (??????????????? (http://www.arc.ritsumei.ac.jp/lib/exhibition/2010/kabuki/4/no62.html) ; This model is buildable, there may be a missing sheet but I was able to end up with something pretty close to the picture of the completed model that is posted on the site.).
There may be more models out there, the site navigation is complex and I kept finding links or sub-libraries with more prints and keep on getting lost and having to start over. I was trying to get around without Google translate, which was a mistake.
I downloaded some non paper model Hiroshige prints as screen savers and for printing my own stationary. I send corresponding to my tax=lady on attack of the 47 Ronin prints, and she gets a good laugh when I tell her its Japanese style tax collection.

I tried building the model in my head, think the two paired yellow rectangles are axels. or maybe a bench or thwart. The paired eye things with red border go on top of the mast. I have no idea what the curved point piece with the wave on it is for.
I like how PAT figured out what to do with the stern piece. I was trying to keep it in one piece and of course could not see a way of fitting it to the hull. Making it two pieces as Pat did is the solution.
I am interested to see what you are giong to do with the sail. If you complete it I suspect you will be the first gaijin ever to have built it. So you have my congratulations in advance.

Patcraft: by the way is that a glass of glue, or is it some kind of tasty French yogurt drink?


Sorry for the long run on post.

John Wagenseil
01-31-2013, 05:12 PM
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Vermin_King
01-31-2013, 05:55 PM
I have no idea what the curved point piece with the wave on it is for.


That is the front of the boat

John Wagenseil
01-31-2013, 06:00 PM
The first five prints on this page are a tatebanko of a scene from Chusingura:

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John Wagenseil
01-31-2013, 06:16 PM
The first five prints on this page are a tatebanko of a scene from Chusingura:

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Soon to be a major motion picture with Keanu Reeves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2012_film)
I hope they have not ruined it.
There are many Japanese versions of Chusingura, the 1962 version is very good and is rentable and at many public libraries.
I have never seen the 1978 version, the Fall of Ako Castle, but it has Sonny Chiba in it so it is probably a blood fest.

Pat_craft
02-04-2013, 04:01 AM
I finished the float...
I haven't dreamed : many pieces doesn't fit !!! :eek::rolleyes:
I think that the painter had drink to much sake while doing this model. I haven't a better explanation...

Has you can see, I cut the the sail. I didn't understand how to manage the lower part...
I place the "paws" where I think they must be...
I had some small paper roll for wheel axes (it looks better like that).

Nice model, but... :cool:

Many thanks for the other links John !

Vermin_King
02-04-2013, 12:23 PM
Looks good, but doesn't the piece under the bow sit on top of the mast?

Pat_craft
02-04-2013, 02:29 PM
Vermin King : do you speak about this part ?

Vermin_King
02-04-2013, 03:39 PM
I meant this piece. I believe it goes at the top of the mast.

I hope the attachments work. In the diagram, it looks to me that this round piece goes on top.

Pat_craft
02-05-2013, 01:55 AM
I think you are right Vermin King !
I "saw" a claw in this piece, even if it was not on the small picture and if there was something at the top of the mast (there so many problem on this sheet... I thought that it was just one more...). But I was wrong.

Thanks for this useful analyse and your eagle eye ! ;-)

Vermin_King
02-05-2013, 08:39 AM
Considering how this was 'designed' you did a very good job with it. I read somewhere that these were sometimes done as wrapping paper. When the gift is unwrapped, you give the kids the paper so they have something to do to keep them busy. This may be one of them. I'm still not sure what that is supposed to be under the sail on the 'template'. I don't see it in your build.