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bob martin
04-10-2009, 07:52 PM
I got this CD over a year ago and am just now getting around to give it a try. This is the first of 13 models on the CD and is a sample of the aircraft in the movie "Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines." I chose this one "BLACKBURN 12" because is seemed the easiest......Surprise:eek:
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLACKBURN_12_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLACKBURN_12_003.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLACKBURN_12_MONOPLANE_004.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLACKBURN_12_004.jpg
If you don't like rigging, pass this CD by;)

dansls1
04-10-2009, 08:16 PM
Very nice! I'm all the sudden wanting to do a plane with rigging with all these nice builds...

Art Deco
04-10-2009, 09:22 PM
Ha, coincidentally I just watched that movie last month - first time since I was a boy. The film has a lot of corny 60s humor (slapstick, stereotypes ...), but the planes were gorgeous, it was a treat to see (and hear) them in flight. And I have to confess a weakness for Terry-Thomas. :)

That Blackburn looks great, very nicely built!

Papercut
04-11-2009, 12:14 AM
BIG FAN of the movie, and of your model. I am not sure, but I believe that wonderful set of wing rigging served a purpose, wing warping for control while flying. I have a set of Hugaford hand made wire wheels that I hope to use on just such a plane some day. Do not know if you know about these little works of art, the are made of balsa and string, all by hand, and the fella was blind that made them. They are now as hard as hens teeth to come by. I laugh now, when I purchased from Polk's Hobby, anyone remember them, I was going to use on a rubber free flight, but there is noway now I would use for that but to display. Anyhow, I enjoyed your Magnificent Blackburn, how about a build thread for the next one, pretty please.:DRick

bob martin
04-11-2009, 05:52 AM
Hey Papercut, do you have any pictures of those models? It is true that quite a few of the early machines used wing warping for control, including the Wright gliders and the Wright Flyer.

I finished this one last night. Because of the undercarriage this one was a lot harder to rig. I certainly wouldn't want to make a hard landing with this one.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_005.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_006.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_009.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_007.jpg

eatcrow2
04-11-2009, 06:35 AM
Nice work on all these models.....

Papercut
04-11-2009, 11:52 AM
Hey Papercut, do you have any pictures of those models? It is true that quite a few of the early machines used wing warping for control, including the Wright gliders and the Wright Flyer.

I finished this one last night. Because of the undercarriage this one was a lot harder to rig. I certainly wouldn't want to make a hard landing with this one.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_005.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_006.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_009.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ANTOINETTE_VII_007.jpgSadly, no balsa/Jap tissue are left except for a beautiful Gasparin CO2 engine and two sets of Hugafords wire wheels. Funny but this very model is one I am looking at to build in balsa from Easy-Built Models, yea right, nothing easy about them, but if you can build and finish, they are wonderful little flying machines. I promise when I do build, I will post here for all to see. I am so impressed with these planes, where did you get this, would like to build as well. Rick

bob martin
04-11-2009, 03:47 PM
The Models were created by Lad "n Dad and published by Fiddlersgreen.net

As far as I know they are still available there. As I said I got mine over a year ago.

Good Luck:D

Papercut
04-11-2009, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the info. Rick

bob martin
04-13-2009, 05:28 PM
Well this is the 3rd one from the CD. "PHILLIPS Multiplane." This first picture will give you some idea on the size of this one.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/PHILLIPS_Multiplane_001.jpg
I tried everything I could to build the wings and wing struts as per the plans.........No Way:mad: I finally had to built a jig. I used balsa wood to space the wings and used balsa for the wing struts.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/PHILLIPS_Multiplane_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/PHILLIPS_Multiplane_003.jpg
Even after all that you can see that the wings still didn't come out straight. The slightest thickness difference between the wings allowed the wings to move slightly.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/PHILLIPS_Multiplane_004.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/PHILLIPS_Multiplane_006.jpg
Well anyway gave me a real feel for the time the original builder spent on this thing to never even get off the ground.;)

Don Boose
04-13-2009, 06:57 PM
From the photos I've seen, Horation Phillips's wings didn't all come out straight, either.

These are a very nice set of airplanes and I'm glad you are building and displaying them.

Don

Kugelfang
04-14-2009, 05:48 AM
I'm really glad you're posting these. I've got Fiddler's Green's 'Voisin Hydro Canard' all printed out and ready to go. Really love these old crates. This will be my 3rd or 4th build ever and my first attempt in about 4 years. About how long is each build taking you? And how would you describe your experience level?

--jeff

bob martin
04-14-2009, 01:25 PM
Hey jeff,
Usually it takes me a couple days. I think the Antoinette took me three days. Of course that doesn't mean I work all day long:)

Most of the models I have done are from fiddlersgreen. However, I have done several more difficults and more detailed ones as well. Compared to some of the builds you see here in this forum, as far as difficulty & detail, I couldn't even begin to live up to their expertise.
:o I mean there are some really great modelers here.:D So I would say I am fair to middlin;)

BTW where are you from?

Kugelfang
04-15-2009, 11:17 AM
Have to agree with you about the talent residing on this forum. I am absolutely blown away by some of the models. What really attracts me to card modeling is the variety of models available. So many more rare and esoteric subjects that you just don't find in plastic. And it's great to find some people who share my interest in them.

Looks like I have a free weekend coming up so maybe I'll get started on the Voisin. Though I think I may use 1/16" balsa for the float struts. Just doesn't seem like a bent paperclip would attach very securely to the rest of the model. Somehow seems inappropriate, too...

I'm located in Columbus, Ohio, USA.

--jeff

bob martin
04-15-2009, 05:53 PM
Hey By Golly, a next door neighbor!;) Well on here that could be anywhere in the world.:cool: Be sure to post some pictures of the Voisin when you get it done.:D

bob martin
04-21-2009, 11:16 AM
Well here is the forth one from the Mag Men Cd
AVRO TRIPLANE Mk IV.:)
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/AVRO_TRIPLANE_Mk_IV.jpg
I had to design my own engine. There was one on the plans but not the one for this aircraft.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/AVRO_TRIPLANE_Mk_IV_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/AVRO_TRIPLANE_Mk_IV_004.jpg
The rigging on this one was a BEAR:eek: I wish I'd taken a little more time and done a better job:o
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/AVRO_TRIPLANE_Mk_IV_003.jpg

B-Manic
04-21-2009, 12:52 PM
This is a very nice build of an interesting aircraft. The engine looks great, as does the rigging. That must have taken some time. I am really enjoying this thread thanks for sharing Bob.

Don Boose
04-21-2009, 07:21 PM
The AVRO Triplane is terrific, Bob. I think it's my favorite so far of an outstanding set of models.

Don

bob martin
04-23-2009, 05:54 PM
This is my number five from the Mag Men:)
VICKERS Type 22 Bleriot.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/VICKERS_Type_22_Bleriot_000.jpg
I varied slightly on this one. The plans called for two skids but the picture on the plans showed one with only one skid on the undercarriage. I liked the way that one looked soooo;)
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/VICKERS_Type_22_Bleriot_001.jpg
I tried something a little differently with the rigging on the tail boom. I had an old paint brush that I cut some of the brissles off and glued pieces in the tail boom for rigging. I only wished I had used a little heavier card stock for the fuselage:rolleyes:
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/VICKERS_Type_22_Bleriot_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/VICKERS_Type_22_Bleriot_003.jpg

B-Manic
04-23-2009, 05:56 PM
NICE - I like the single ski also, well actually, I pretty much like all the early monoplanes :)

Don Boose
04-24-2009, 11:12 AM
Okay. So now the Vickers-Bleriot is my favorite.

Don

Art Deco
04-25-2009, 11:49 AM
I'm really enjoying this thread - I can't believe how quickly you are turning out such nice builds!

How are you going to display them when the series is finished? Maybe you could model a hanger or scene from an aerodrome, reminiscent of the movie?

bob martin
04-26-2009, 05:25 AM
My first thought was to do a Mobile like this one of WWI aircraft:).
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/594/medium/WWI_MOBILE.jpg
Pretty easy to get fairly close to all 12 models to get a photo.

However, your idea would really be great;). Even if I had to take 2 or 3 photo to get them all in the picture.

Anyway still have about 7 more to do. The Bristol Boxkite is going to be a real challenge:eek:
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/Bristol_Boxkite.jpg

Don Boose
04-26-2009, 06:41 AM
It looks like it's mostly wire!

Always glad to see photos of your wonderful airplane mobiles, Bob.

Don

bob martin
04-26-2009, 02:08 PM
Thanks Don:) You're right, mostly wire & Sticks:rolleyes: Should really be fun:D
Anywho...here's #6
DEPERDUSSIN "Popular."
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEPERDUSSIN_Popular_000.jpg
I was tempted to use one ski, but the plans had two so I did two. I think most of the early planes were prone to ground loop, thus the reason for the skis:confused:
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEPERDUSSIN_Popular_001.jpg
instead of rigging the tail boom I just cut out around the cross wires:o
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEPERDUSSIN_Popular_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEPERDUSSIN_Popular_003.jpg
Wish I could do the spoke wheels this small. I tried:(
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEPERDUSSIN_Popular_004.jpg
You'll notice I photographed this one at a different angle than the others..........Here's why:eek:
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEPERDUSSIN_Popular_005.jpg:confused::D:D:D

Don Boose
04-26-2009, 02:41 PM
Oooh! Oooh!

Now the Deperdussin is my favorite -- especially the rare model with the backwards "3" on the vertical stabilizer which only a few particularly knowledgable aviation historians know about.

Each one of these is better than the last.

Don

mbauer
04-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Hi Bob,

Thanks for sharing these builds! Great looking models. I haven't watched this movie for awhile, but the next trip to the video rental will change that.

Thanks for sharing the wonderfull work! great job!

Mike

Kugelfang
04-27-2009, 05:10 AM
Glorious! I had a 1/48th scale plastic Bristol Boxkite as a child and have often wondered if it could be done in paper. I'm looking forward to seeing it. You've inspired me to actually sit down and start my Voison. Didn't get far before 'Real Life' interfered, but it's a start.

--jeff

bob martin
04-27-2009, 07:11 AM
Jeff be sure to rent the DVD and watch all the extras on it.:cool: They actually built and flew most of the planes in the movie:eek:. Great Stuff.:D No digital imagining;)

Bob

bob martin
04-28-2009, 04:19 PM
#7 DIXON NIPPER CANARD, MONOPLANE..
I thing Mr. Dixon must have been "NIPPER-IN" on some spirits in order to try and fly this thing:rolleyes::D. Something like the cart before the horse:D:D Have to give him credit though, It actually flew:rolleyes:

The history says it made some short flights n 1911 but was eventually wrecked. The non flying replica for the movie was built by Denton and Partners and was called "the Little Tiddler."
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DIXON_NIPPER_Canard_Monoplane_000.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DIXON_NIPPER_Canard_Monoplane_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DIXON_NIPPER_Canard_Monoplane_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DIXON_NIPPER_Canard_Monoplane_003.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DIXON_NIPPER_Canard_Monoplane_004.jpg
:eek::eek::eek: I just realized....I forgot to rig the undercarriage:(:(:(

B-Manic
04-28-2009, 05:16 PM
Mr. Dixon's aircraft is certainly peculiar. Looks like an avionic Pushmepullyou. It is nice seeing all these historical planes so skillfully rendered. It is amazing how far aircraft designs have come in just over 100 years.

Art Deco
04-28-2009, 11:08 PM
They actually built and flew most of the planes in the movie:eek:. Great Stuff.:D

That's really incredible!

I just watched this movie a couple months ago. I was marveling over how, in the 1960s, there were apparently still functioning specimens of these planes around, and how amazing it was that they rounded them up, learned how to operate them, and then flew them around so dangerously for this film.

Now I understand - they actually BUILT an entire squadron of fully functioning replicas! Documenting that effort could have been a feature-length film on its own!

Thanks for mentioning that! :)

shrike
04-28-2009, 11:24 PM
I seem to recall that it was a film of it's own, but I can't remember where I might have seen it.

Leif Ohlsson
04-29-2009, 05:01 AM
There is a fairly exhaustive account of the flying aircraft involved in the film in the Wikipedia entrance. Use this link, and scroll down just a little bit to "Aircraft":

Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Those_Magnificent_Men_in_Their_Flying_Machines#Pro duction)

I'd like to quote it in full, but it is too long. Here's the intro:

The film is notable for its use of specially constructed reproductions of 1910-era aircraft, including a triplane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplane), as well as monoplanes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoplane) and biplanes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biplane). Air Commodore Wheeler insisted on using the authentic materials of the originals, but with modern engines and modifications (where necessary) to ensure safety. Of the 20 types built in 1964 at a cost of about £5,000 pounds each, six were able to fly, flown by six "regular" stunt pilots and maintained by a crew of 14 aviation mechanics. (The race takeoff scene where seven aircraft are in the air at once included a composite "addition" to the fleet.) Flying conditions were carefully monitored with aerial scenes filmed before 10 am each day or in the early evening when the air was least turbulent for the flying replicas that were considered "flimsy" by modern standards. Due to the necessity to get aerial sequences "in the can," the "call sheet" each day was determined by the prevailing weather conditions. If it was favourable to fly, all the principal actors were made up for aerial scenes; if the weather was poor, interiors or other incidental sequences were substituted. Wheeler eventually served as the technical adviser and aerial supervisor throughout the production and later wrote a comprehensive background account of the film and the replicas that were constructed to portray period aircraft.The references given for this are:

+ Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines DVD, 2004. Apparently with bonus material, probably including the story of building the various aicraft.

+ Wheeler, Allen H. Building Aeroplanes for "Those Magnificent Men.". London: G.T. Foulis, 1965.

Several of the aircraft built & used for the film later ended up with the Shuttleworth collection or at Old Rhinebeck.

Leif

Art Deco
04-30-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks for that link, Leif - lots of fascinating info!

bob martin
05-01-2009, 06:10 AM
Dito Leif, thanks for the link. Found this new model in my folder. So took a break from Mag Men to give this one a try.
"Mitsubishi Claude"
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/594/medium/MITSUBISHI_CLAUDE_000.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/594/medium/MITSUBISHI_CLAUDE_003.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/594/medium/MITSUBISHI_CLAUDE_004.jpg

Don Boose
05-01-2009, 11:28 AM
Very nice! This is the one that Glen (birder) designed, isn't it?

Don

bob martin
05-01-2009, 05:27 PM
Hey Don. I'm really not sure? If he did it is really a great model. Sorry I didn't do it justice:o It is a really big model too. I need to do it over at some point. I made several mistakes when building. Thats on another page:) I've started the Bristol Boxkite. It's gonna take me a while on this one:eek: All sticks and cables.

Bob

bob martin
05-04-2009, 12:25 PM
OKEY! Back to the Magnificent Men:D
"THE BRISTOL BOXKITE."
This one took me over a week to build.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_003.jpghttp://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_006.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_007.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_008.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BRISTOL_BOXKITE_009.jpg
If your not into rigging, stay far far away from this one:D:D

dansls1
05-04-2009, 02:18 PM
Very nice job! I think it would take me a week of studying just to figure out how the rigging is supposed to go ;)

Don Boose
05-04-2009, 04:11 PM
You are really getting the most from these models, Bob. The Bristol Boxkite is now my favorite -- every one of these is better looking than the last. You certainly did a first rate job with that rigging.

Don

bob martin
05-07-2009, 04:15 PM
If my count is right, this is #9. I think??
"EARDLEY BILLINGS BIPLANE" Japanese Version.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_002.jpg
This one was not to bad. The covered wing struts made it pretty simple.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_003.jpg
It's pretty hard to tell but I tried using silver thread. Kinda looks like cable when view up close. Doesn't show up to well on the photos.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_004.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_006.jpg
I think I'll pass on the German version for now and start on the Demoiselle.

B-Manic
05-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Another really nice build, the art work is really wild, like a Japanese kite.

shrike
05-07-2009, 05:21 PM
I remember reading about this one. The painted panels on the struts created so much yaw stability that the airplane was almost incapable of turning.

bob martin
05-07-2009, 08:41 PM
So....If your flying from point "A" to point"B" Hope there's no cross wind component.:D

bob martin
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
Been away for Mothers day visiting the kids, leaving again, Goin camping with the kids :D
So this is #10....Kinda rushed through this one
Santos Dumont No 20 Demoiselle
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEMOISELLE_0011.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEMOISELLE_0021.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEMOISELLE_0041.jpg
Following is the one I built from Fiddlers Green. I like it much better :wink: http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEMOISELLE_006.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/DEMOISELLE_007.jpg
Next up, The channel crosser, "BLERIOT IX"

Don Boose
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
Ah! The little Demoiselle appears at last! It looks magnifique!

I look forward to the Bleriot Channel crosser. I built one of those as a going away gift for a fighter pilot colleague in Japan some 20+ years ago. No rigging. It wasn't in the same ball park as the one you are going to show us.

Don

dansls1
05-14-2009, 08:33 PM
Nice models - although I agree with your assessment of the FG version ;)

Leif Ohlsson
05-15-2009, 03:35 AM
I never knew these small versions of the Demoiselle could look so good - they are charming! - L.

bob martin
05-20-2009, 04:08 PM
Well contuning the countdown. Traveling & Camping over for a while so see if I can finish this project. Here is the 11th one.
BLERIOT IX:)
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLERIOT_IX_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLERIOT_IX_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLERIOT_IX_003.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLERIOT_IX_004.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/BLERIOT_IX_005.jpg
The only one left is the German version of the Eardley Billing Biplane. Then I need to decide how I'm going to display the collection. I guess I'll have to watch the movie again:D to get a feel for the Aerodome layout:cool:
Sorry some of the pictures are a little fuzzy. The screen display on my camera "Died" So I have to look through the view finder to shoot the pics, and some are a little fuzzy:confused: for some reason:(

shrike
05-20-2009, 05:01 PM
You'll have to build a model of the ....'pond'

Ashrunner
05-21-2009, 03:23 PM
You'll have to build a model of the ....'pond'

Sewage included?

bob martin
05-21-2009, 04:11 PM
he he he!!!!! ;)

birder
05-21-2009, 11:09 PM
That's a nice set of early planes you've done there Bob!

bob martin
05-22-2009, 07:32 AM
Thanks Guys for the kind comments. I started the German version of the Eardley Billings Biplane yesterday. The biggest challange with these small early flyers is, of course, the rigging. I've tried several methods. The small fuselages prove the greatest challange.
I've decided to try another method with this model seeing that the entire fuselage requires rigging. If this works well I would like to go back and redo the Bleriot, Vickers and Demoiselle.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BUILD_001.jpg
The first thing I did was paint the underside of the fuselage before cutting out the openings for the rigging.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BUILD_002.jpg
I'm using paint brush brissles. I cut them to fit the cut out and glue them to the underside of the openings.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BUILD_003.jpg
This really takes a lot of time, cutting the brissles to length, glueing them in place and waiting for them to dry.
I'll have to wait and see what happens when I go to glue the fuselage toqether.......Fingers Crossed;)

member_3
05-22-2009, 07:42 AM
Now that has to earn you the "Iron Man Paper Modeler" title just for sheer determination alone! As you say, if you can successfully join the sides/top/bottom this will be a stunning model!

eatcrow2
05-22-2009, 10:50 AM
That is amazing work!!! Looking forward to the updates.......

redhorse
05-22-2009, 10:53 AM
This has been such an enjoyable thread, and the Billings biplane may take the cake. Looks great so far and I never would have though of using paint brush bristles. They seem to work quite nicely.

Leif Ohlsson
05-22-2009, 01:22 PM
This is very good modeling. It ties in very nicely with what Jim is doing with his Caudron (http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/aviation/3252-caudron-g-4-1-32-ecardmodels.html).

The work of both of you will be of great importance. I, too, am keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Leif

bob martin
05-22-2009, 06:39 PM
I must say, I am somewhat surprised:eek: It went together much easier than I figured.:D It seems the bristles actually stiffened up the frame and made it easier to glue together.:confused: Now if the rest of the rigging goes well.:)
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_0021.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_005.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_0061.jpg
Now on to the rest of the Biplane:)

member_3
05-22-2009, 09:44 PM
Oh my! That is sheer elegance. This will be a museum quality model when done!

cdwheatley
05-23-2009, 02:57 AM
Amazing stuff Bob :).

Don Boose
05-23-2009, 06:00 AM
You've taken this to an entirely new level, Bob!

Don

SCEtoAUX
05-23-2009, 06:11 AM
Jeesh, Bob, how are the old eyeballs and brain holding up? That last one looks good, but oh my achin' back!

I had thought about stiffening up some thread with glue, cutting out the correct lengths for the various rigging positions, then carefully glueing them in place when or if I ever decided to try my hand on one of those early airplanes. Seems like a lot of work, but based on your endeavours the results would be great.:)

treadhead1952
05-23-2009, 06:23 AM
Hi Bob,

Thanks for the tour of your MMITFM collection, great looking little planes in all their glory. I can't wait to see your latest creation finished.

I really like the way Chip has these grouped into collections so you can get several similiar and historic designs in one fell swoop.

bob martin
05-26-2009, 08:34 AM
Well I finally made it:eek: This is the Twelfth and final model in:
"Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines" movie:D
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/GERMAN_ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_001.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/GERMAN_ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_002.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/GERMAN_ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_003.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/GERMAN_ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_004.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/GERMAN_ELDRLEY_BILLINGS_BIPLANE_005.jpg
This one was by far one of the more difficult one because of all the rigging, especally in the fuselage. Surpassed only, perhaps by the "Bristol Boxkite."
Now I gotta go watch the movie:D and see if I can figure out how to display all twelve:eek: Again, fingers Crossed;)

B-Manic
05-26-2009, 08:38 AM
Very nice. This thread has been great - too bad its over. You building skills have really brought these aircraft to life. Thanks for sharing your builds of these magnificent machines.

dansls1
05-26-2009, 08:43 AM
Very nice collection. I hope you come up with a good display idea - they deserve to be on display ;)

Art Deco
05-26-2009, 10:04 AM
It was a real treat, just after seeing the movie, to watch the entire collection of "aeroplanes" emerge, one by one. So nicely assembled and detailed, each a distinct and remarkable gemstone! Bravo, Bob! Thank you for sharing the ride with us!

And now ... can we have a shot or two of the entire fleet, all together? :)

Kugelfang
05-26-2009, 12:25 PM
Hear! Hear! Let's see them all together.

Thanks for the thread. I have things to aspire to.

--jeff

Ashrunner
05-26-2009, 02:38 PM
Excellent work on all the models! Like others have said, I'd like to see all of them together.

I had to watch the movie three times during the course of this thread. It is one of my top three movies of all time.

bob martin
05-26-2009, 03:43 PM
OK:D This is not the display:eek: Just a quicky look at all twelve together;)
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_001.jpg
I've got to come up with the buildings at the aerodome. Or draw them up myself:confused: Anybody got any idea where I might come up with at least the front of one of the aerodome buildings?? I'll come up with something soon:cool: Already have the green for the field and a blue sheet for the background:)

B-Manic
05-26-2009, 05:19 PM
You could scale up this Scale Models3 (http://byairclassique.com/Scalemodels%20BAC3.htm) from Airclassique
or this one Card Models - 1/144 Aircraft Hangar (http://www.tomtom-net.de/resources/cardmodel/hangar/hangar_f.htm) free from TomToms Aviation resources
http://byairclassique.com/rs%20croydon%20model.jpg
http://www.tomtom-net.de/resources/cardmodel/hangar/hangar.jpg

bob martin
05-27-2009, 09:11 PM
Just thought I'd let you all know I'm not dragging my feet on this project. Here is a photo on the progress so far. As you can see I still have a ways to go.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_AERODOME_001.jpg

shrike
05-27-2009, 10:36 PM
Just one thing.
That would have been 'A.V.Roe & co' then.

That said - very nice hangars. Are they scratch built? If so, will they be available?

Art Deco
05-28-2009, 10:01 AM
Wow, fast work on the hangars! They are coming along great!

bob martin
05-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Here is all the hangers for the Mag Men Display. Or at least all the hangers I'm making for my display.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_AERODOME.jpg
shrike, The hangers are a greatly modified, Wright shed they used to store their glider at Kitty Hawk, NC. It is provided with the Wright Glider and part of the "Early Flying Machines" CD from Fiddlers Green. The last hanger on the right of my display is the more or less original Wright shed:D

bob martin
06-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Well here is the final display of "The Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines." Had a bit of problem getting them all in the picture, and to compound the problem the screen on the camera died and the view finder doesn't have a true view of where you are pointing. Anyway here you go:rolleyes:
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_0021.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_005.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_006.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_007.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_003.jpg
BTW each individual aircraft can be view on this thread;)

member_3
06-01-2009, 03:48 PM
Simply outstanding!! One (silly?) question - are all the models to the same scale?

Yu Gyokubun
06-01-2009, 04:13 PM
Wow, spectacular scenery!!! Terrific!!!

Zathros
06-01-2009, 07:27 PM
One of the most awesome collections ever. It is one of my favorite all time movies. What a great collection. A collection to be rightly proud of!

Art Deco
06-01-2009, 11:47 PM
Just fantastic! Bravo!

Thanks for a very enjoyable thread! :-)

bob martin
06-02-2009, 05:49 AM
Thanks guys, I too have enjoyed this project. Not sure I want to start another anytime soon;). This movie has been one of my favorite and I have a real afinity for those "fly by the seat of the pants" aircraft, which sorta mirrors my flying experiences, having built and flown a Benson Gyrocopter and numerous Hang Gliders.

Old Troll, I really don't know if all the aircraft are to scale:confused: There is nothing on the CD that gives a scale. So I can't really say. I'll ask around and see if I can find out. As you probably know the Demoiselle was the smallest of the aircraft in the movie. If that is any indication of scale, relative to the rest of the models in the collection, it is still the smallest.:) Because of the different sizes of the models, I assume they are to scale, what ever that is. :D

dansls1
06-02-2009, 06:25 AM
Very nice! Great models in a great display - you should be very happy with the result ;)

willygoat
06-02-2009, 07:41 AM
Sneaky, sneaky Mr. Martin! I see 'ole Doc Brown sitting there in his Delorean. I didn't know the magnificent Men film took place in Hill Valley :p

bob martin
06-02-2009, 11:19 AM
:D:D:D very funny. You should see it set up in my slide show. In the first shot all you see is the 12 aircraft. In the next shot the exact same picture and "POP" the Doc shows up out of thin air:eek: :D:D
Not sure how he got outa Hill Valley;)

bob martin
06-04-2009, 05:26 PM
I almost forgot:o This little baby was included as an extra bonus in the Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines CD.
"The AVRO 534 BABY"
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_0011.jpg
After World War I A. V. Roe entered the light aircraft field with the Avro 534 Baby a low powered light weight single seat biplane designed around a 35 hp Green engine.
Of the 9 examples built the most famous was the aircraft flown by Bert Hinkler which made several record flight Croydon to Turin 9 1/2 hours and Sydney to Bundaberg non stop.
The aircraft is preserved in the Queensland Museum.
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_0022.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_0031.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_004.jpg
http://www.papermodelers.com/gallery/data/623/medium/MAGNIFICENT_MEN_0051.jpg

Lionheart
06-05-2009, 07:42 AM
Holy Smokes! What outstanding work! Something to aspire to. Just as magnificent as the movie! Great job!:D

bob martin
09-16-2009, 06:19 PM
Thank you for the birthday greeting:D

Well our cat began trashing my Magnificent Men Models by climbing up on the shelf for whatever reason http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/forum/images/smiles/icon_question.gif http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/forum/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif So I needed to do something. So I decided this afternoon to go ahead and make a mobile for them.
http://64.136.20.22/2374343_m.jpg
http://64.136.20.22/2374344_m.jpg
http://64.136.20.22/2374345_m.jpg
http://64.136.20.22/2374346_m.jpg
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

kenlwest
09-16-2009, 07:06 PM
Man! If this isn't the coolest collection of vintage aircraft...

I don't know why I haven't seen this thread before :o..

VERY cool and Nice Job! The rigging makes the model IMHO

Ken

Wyvern
09-17-2009, 07:36 AM
Lovely collection your have there, sir!

Wyvern

Michael Mash
09-18-2009, 11:07 AM
My favorite is the "boxkite" (Phoenix Flyer). What a great collection and a wonderful display of skill. Looks like you had a lot of fun.
Mike

William (bill) Amos
09-18-2009, 12:04 PM
bob martin..ive had the kit for this one for awhile..you did a super job of building..i put it back for a rainy day ..but may wait for the great flood...hawkstrikes

bob martin
09-19-2009, 05:53 AM
Thanks guys for all the kind comments.:D This CD was a real challange. I didn't have a real feel for the scale of these models, and then all the rigging at that scale:eek: However, you are correct, I really had a lot of fun with them.;) It may take a really long rainy day before I do another one:D

birder
09-19-2009, 10:20 AM
Nice work Bob! I really like the hangers and airstrip shot, that is very nice and such nice rigging on all those fragile little planes:)

rmks2000
09-20-2009, 07:35 AM
Beautiful work! I can really appreciate the effort put into such small models.

Jan Kytop
09-20-2009, 02:29 PM
Very beautiful collection!