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cdwheatley
06-16-2009, 07:01 AM
Does anyone know where I can download a model of the Klingon D7 battle cruiser, in 1/1700 scale if possible?

cMags
06-16-2009, 07:08 AM
I downloaded one recently but can't remember offhand where it is. It was 6 .jpg files, and the same site had a USS Daedalus (Not Diego's).

Let me dig a little more, otherwise I'll email it to you since I know it was a proper freebie.

cMags
06-16-2009, 07:22 AM
A little more digging reveals that the model is by Marc Robitaille and was at one time hosted on the now gone Billy's World. There's a copy on missouri1981's webshots album (is this Billy?), but I've never been able to successfully download the models from that site. I know I found it on another site, but I remember that it was a fluke that I ended up at it.

Klingon D7 pictures from crafts photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/320047026NSjIuy)

If anyone knows a way to get these or any other models originally hosted on Billy's World, it seems that Chris and I (Chris lol) would truly appreciate it.

Oh yea, I also saw a few links to build threads on Z when searching for "klingon d7 Marc Robitaille", but I'm still IP banned and couldn't see if they were useful. Give it a shot.

And PM me your email address if you need the files I have. There's no scale listed so you'll probably have to measure a particular part and figure it out.

Sidewinder81777
06-16-2009, 07:53 AM
Its over here but Im not sure of the scale. I did a partial build at full sixe, measured it then reduced the print for the 1:1700 sitting in my build stack but I dont remember the %.
Link for Marc's site
Bonjour à tous ?(Star Trek en papier)? (http://sites.google.com/site/startrekenpapier/)

cMags
06-16-2009, 08:13 AM
That's the one! I knew I found it hosted somewhere along with the Daedalus! Well played SW! :D

cMags
06-16-2009, 08:15 AM
By the way, speaking of Klingon ships. I know we were waiting on a Negh'var on the other forum, but has anyone seen this (simple) Negh'var model?

http://spsf.50megs.com/images/negh_250x168.jpg

KLINGON NEGH'VAR (http://spsf.50megs.com/photo3_7.html)

Certainly not detailed enough to make at 1:1700, but figured I might post it anyway. Skip's Birth of the Federation project has some nice simpler models for those just getting into the hobby.

Sidewinder81777
06-16-2009, 08:19 AM
Ive got that one just havent bothered with it due to the detail level (or lack thereof). Have even seen skip expressing distaste for it, one of the reasons he abandoned that project. He does however have the only Negh'Var, Ferengi Marauder, and Romulan D'Deridex (Until Zosho finishes his) models extant right now.

cMags
06-16-2009, 08:33 AM
Ok, doing some scale calculations here:

K'tinga (D7) Class battlecruiser - overall length: 228m

Measuring a profile shot gives me a warp nacelle length of 34% = 78m

At 1:1700 scale, 78m -> 4.6cm = 1.8in (easier to do printer calcs from inches)

Now the original file will print out at 8x10.5 at 300dpi. I'll consider this the designed size. At this resolution, the nacelle is approx 40+1120+240=1400px long. At 300dpi, that produces a nacelle 4.67in long (full scale). Quick side math indicates that original scale is somewhere around 1:660.

To scale down to 1:1700, print at 1.8/4.67 = 38%

Or, using my scaling method, I would instead create a 8x10.5 sheet at 780dpi, and copy all the parts onto it. This allows no detail loss and will probably net all the parts on a single sheet.

Can you tell I'm an engineer (read: geek)? :cool:

cdwheatley
06-16-2009, 08:39 AM
Well done chaps :).

Sidewinder81777
06-16-2009, 08:40 AM
ah yes I remember now. your dead on with the original scale at 1:660 or so. Just needed my memory jogged.
As a sidebar I also have the new orleans class from the webshots site but havent attempted a build yet, the textures are kinda bad

Sidewinder81777
06-16-2009, 08:41 AM
Well done chaps :).

We aim to please :D

Paragon
06-16-2009, 09:35 AM
I actually jsut built that ship, and 1:660 is what I got too when I rescaled it. I did want to point out, its not technically a D-7, its a K't'inga, from TMP, not TOS. They also introduced another upgrade in Star Trek VI, with glowing cyan nacelles, and more hull detail.

cdwheatley
06-16-2009, 09:53 AM
I did want to point out, its not technically a D-7, its a K't'inga, from TMP, not TOS. They also introduced another upgrade in Star Trek VI, with glowing cyan nacelles, and more hull detail.
Yeah I knew that already, but thanks anyway.

Paragon
06-16-2009, 10:02 AM
No problem. I did remember seeing another version of it as well. I downloaded that version, but I don't remember where it came from. The major difference I noted in it was that the "head" was the same grey as the rest, not darker, like the version you're about to build.

Oh, and if you haven't rescaled it yet, I can send you the file I used for my 1/1900 version, and you can scale it up a little to 1/1700.

cMags
06-16-2009, 10:10 AM
I did want to point out, its not technically a D-7, its a K't'inga, from TMP, not TOS. They also introduced another upgrade in Star Trek VI, with glowing cyan nacelles, and more hull detail.

I stand corrected.

Also, do you still have the files for the other version of the ship that you have? I'd love to take a look at the differences. If this isn't the original D-7, is anyone aware of one? I planned to at some point create the three main ships from TOS - the Enterprise, a D-7, and the original Rom BoP. Four if you count the Tholian ship that I've seen floating around and think I have in my collection.

Paragon
06-16-2009, 10:13 AM
Its still mostly the same as the other one, and I'd still put it at TMP era, but I can certainly send it if you want, it might take a bit to do though.

cMags
06-16-2009, 10:28 AM
No hurry, but yea it'd be cool to have.

cdwheatley
06-16-2009, 11:25 AM
I've already resized it, but I too would like your other version please Paragon, thank you.

Paragon
06-16-2009, 02:35 PM
Well I sent the file to cmags, but apparently it was too big to get through your e-mail filter CDW.

cMags
06-16-2009, 02:51 PM
Got it, thanks! That beta looks like it would be difficult to figure out, with no graphics/textures on the hull to guide. Should be interesting.

cdwheatley
06-17-2009, 01:31 AM
Well I sent the file to cmags, but apparently it was too big to get through your e-mail filter CDW.
Sorry about that Paragon, I hadn't realised that my webmail inbox was full up. I emptied it, and then successfully received the .zip file you sent me. Thanks :)