LCS2 USS Independence 1/200

[nothing]

i am currently stuck with only the ability to do cgi work at the moment. i was looking through some of my references and became intrigued with this ship.at first i was just experimenting to see how i would cope with the catamaran style hull. well 20 hours later i was pretty deep into design.
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[B-Manic]

Nice work - this is probably the most high tech naval vessel in the world I have seen. It is a real test bed for modern computerized control, sensor, communication and instrument systems.

BTW - good work on the Bofors 57mm gun

[nothing]

thanks b-manic. adding details here and there. threw on some simple color to break up the monotony of staring at white forms for hours. and added a MQ-8 Firescout.
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[Barry]

Interesting looking project good 3d

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thanks barry

did some more work on the fire scout
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[eibwarrior]

Trent this is great! Definitely a subject that deserves some coverage. These stealth ships look right out of Star Trek or something. I wonder what Admiral Nimitz would say if he could see these ships....

[Wyvern]

I would love to see a kit come out of this- or at least a set of plans and templates!
Superb rendering- quality on par with the conceptual art you see in USNI's "Proceedings".

[rmks2000]

I just got back from visiting my brother who is one of the project managers for this vessel, and also for the second trimaran, the LCS-4 USS Coronado. He had asked if there were any paper models of the Independence, and I told him that I put in a request for one. He'll be thrilled to hear that you are designing this!

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ok here it goes(hint,hint) does he have any reference for the independence? whats available is scarce. im not sure on how accurate ill end up with on details. so the LCS4 is the same style. what is the LCS3? im also going to do the uss freedom(LCS1) i like the way it looks.

and heres my little firescout
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[lehcyfer]

Wow! That was fast. How long were you building the paper version?

[nothing]

it took me about 3 hours to build it.

[rmks2000]

[QUOTE=nothing;63130]ok here it goes(hint,hint) does he have any reference for the independence? whats available is scarce. im not sure on how accurate ill end up with on details. so the LCS4 is the same style. what is the LCS3? im also going to do the uss freedom(LCS1) i like the way it looks.

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I'll try and get some reference material, but he is a bit close-mouthed about the project. The LCS-3 is a copy of the LCS-1 USS Freedom. The LCS1 and LCS2 are to compete to decide which hull type would win out for the full LCS contract of some 50 ships. However, the Navy was afraid that they would lose all the talent and experience that the builders gained and decided to build two more ships to keep the folks working until a final decision was made.

Bob

[rmks2000]

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Quick update: My brother regretfully cannot provide any data due to sensitivity, but said that there are brand new pix on Austal - Leading the World in the Design and Construction of Customised Aluminium Commercial and Defence Vessels (http://www.austal.com)
This has shots from the latest builders trials. The posters and brochure are pretty informative.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Bob

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thats ok. i actually found that site this morning while searching for pictures of (of all things) LCS3. got some unbeleivable photos from there.

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started hashing out the SH-60
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[rmks2000]

Lookin' good.

[nothing]

thanks. this one been a little difficult making it look right and thinking of the scale.
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[Barry]

I had to cut the top into 3 pieces..... looking good

[rmks2000]

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Put me done as the first customer to order this beauty. Will you be going to the Paper Modelers convention in Virginia this year? It would be a great venue to display it.

[nothing]

i didnt know anything about the convention. where can i find info on it?



done with the mesh. wont know how much detail will remain when it goes to paper.i hope to texture and testbuild sometime next week.
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[rickstef]

International Paper Model Convention (http://internationalpapermodelconvention.blogspot.com/)

[jleslie48]

well, you piqued my interest, I tell you. I was just asking if this beauty was available in paper yet not 3 weeks ago.

I'm looking forward to building it.

sincerely,

Jon

[rmks2000]

Nothing,

How goes the battle? Still unpacking?

[gtb -red]

nothing found this. www.gdlcs.com (http://www.gdlcs.com) damn shame to call this the Indy after 2 carriers. The new America class should have that name. Just my 2cents worth.

[rmks2000]

Only the first two ships in the competition have 'values' names. The next two are named after cities (San Antonio and Coronado).

[piginapoke]

Looks great.:)

What software are you using to create the ship and Fire Scout and did you export it to a paper model program to create the Fire Scout?

What paper model program did you use for that conversion by the way?

I'm keen on finding a decent software route from 3D model to paper model.

[jleslie48]

not to be pushy but, I'm going on vacation for a week starting Saturday and I'm looking for a good model to make while I'm on vacation...

[nothing]

lol! im not even close jleslie48. sorry. this is a big project. (have fun on vacation!!)

rmks2000-going a bit slow. all unpacked(what a nightmare) and slowly getting my grove back. only added a few details right now.
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gtb-red- nice find. had all those pictures but these were of higher resolution. thanks.

piginapoke- i use metaseqoia for 3d modeling. not the best but i just cant afford rhino. then ill add basic textures in meta then send it to pepakura to unfold and arrange. then ill send it through paint shop pro9 to finalize textures.

[jleslie48]

no worries, I'm sure I'll find something to build....

[piginapoke]

thanks nothing

I've got meta, had a play with it but it's not easy. I'll give it another go.

[nothing]

once you get used to how things work it is actually one of the easier programs to use.

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small update ,plugging away at some details...
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[Wyvern]

Looking good! I'm looking forward to seeing a kit come out!

Wyvern

[rmks2000]

It's coming along nicely.

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been hard at it today. i think im down to 3 things left. 1- anchor,2 propulsion, 3 flight deck nets. then the texture nightmare will begin.
oh and just thought of it while typing -formers.
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[Wyvern]

I'm loving what I'm seeing. Can't wait to see what you do with textures, but I bet it'll be awesome.

Wyvern

[gtb -red]

very nice.

[doctormax]

That is coming along nicely,

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found some other stuff i forgot but i think im ready for textures now.
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[rmks2000]

Alright! What's the overall length?

[nothing]

i have to verify the numbers i have on hand but i show it at 127.1m which will make it at a scale of 1/200= 2.08 feet.

[gtb -red]

nice,very nice.

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got some place holder textures done.
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[Wyvern]

Trent, you are REALLY whetting my appetite for when this becomes a kit!

Wyvern

[rmks2000]

At this rate you may have the kit available in time for the convention in Virginia! With all the Navy folks down there you may get a few sales even if you just display a print of the cover with a link to ecardmodels.

[nothing]

ive started testing parts of this. im keeping a log of it here- LCS2 USS Independence 1/200 - Ecardmodels.com Forum (http://www.ecardmodels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1618)

[rmks2000]

Glad to see you are making progress.

[nothing]

been steady working on the build.
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[jleslie48]

been steady working on the build.
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geez, she looks great. how did you do the railings?

is this going to be a free download model?

[Wyvern]

Awesome, Trent!

Wyvern

[nothing]

some of the mid hull laid out:)
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[Wyvern]

VERY nice. So looking forward to this hitting kit status, Trent!

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[eibwarrior]

Wow Trent. It's been a while since I checked your progress on this project. This is looking great. I've never had much interest in these stealth craft, but this looks really good. Well done. I'll take my place in line and wait for this kit to hit e-cardmodels.

[nothing]

thank you very much.
here some previews of the mid hull done. top structure is just sitting there. as a note the top structure will have the same texture as the hull. i made the decision after building the top.
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[Clashster]

Coming together very well! Great work!

[APA-168]

Trent, I simply CAN NOT wait to get my hands on this one! GREAT work! Will it be in vector format so that it can be scaled up for those of us crazy enough to try? :D

[rmks2000]

Excellent!

[Wyvern]

Shoot, Trent, it's a wonder the CIA hasn't picked you up for questioning, this looks so detailed!

I'm holding my breathe waiting to be able to buy this.

Wyvern

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wyvern- theyll never find me!! he-he

added sponsons and top. getting close but still a lot to do.
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[Wyvern]

Man, that is so awesome!

Wyvern

[SJPONeill]

Tres way cool!! Can't wait for this baby to hit Ecardmodels....

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hard at it this weekend. added anchor, 57 mm, flight deck nets and some other stuff. about 30 more small peices and the blackhawk left.
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[Barry]

It's a truly great design and build

[member_3]

Beautiful design. the hull textures are particularly effective and realistic. Looking forward to seeing this at eCardModels.

[B-Manic]

Looks fantastic, I particularly like the Bofors and the Sea Ram.

[Wyvern]

Beautiful, Trent!

Wyvern

[nothing]

thank you everyone for the nice comments.this has been a long and difficult development. so i am especially happy to have someone like Barry to take notice!

well the only thing left is the black hawk. and i must admit after studying Barry's blackhawk, i came real close to trashing mine. but i knuckled down and started building to see what the end looks like before i decide. mine is somewhat daunting as i ended up with 60 pieces.(Barry's comes in around 30)
this is 14 of them-
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[Barry]

It looks like a blackhawk and that is hard at 1/200th. I think it is too close to the real thing in the 3d drawing. There are so many conflicting curves and cut outs in such a small space with this helicopter. I ended up taking some curves out. It's a pity the glue joint has split because it is drawing the eye over to it. If that was fixed and the front screen was moved slightly downward they would be very much the same.

[John Bowden]

http://www.guncopter.com/images/gallery/sea-hawk-hellfire.jpg

Not to be a rivet counter........... but actually that is a "Sea Hawk".

Black Hawks are ARMY birds........ and while they do occasinally visit...... they rarely stick around that far from hard ground:D

Very cool design and build work Trent! I too look forward to seeing it released!

john

[gtb -red]

Wow! Fantastic!! A gem!!

[Barry]

Good point John

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john ive been calling it blackhawk as a habbit. black hawk comes more readilly to the mind. but you are correct.

barry- the split on top is due to the fact i did not put enough roll on the top fuselage piece. it is actually 1 piece.just my sloppy craftmanship.

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finished. a bit of a challenge but i am happy with the results. of course all the details dont need to be done to get a basic bird.
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[Barry]

You can't say absolutely excellent grammatically can you ? but let's say it anyway

What did you finish it with regards paint or not ?

[Wyvern]

Looks awesome, Trent, no matter you describe it.

Wyvern

[John Bowden]

Good job!

I just read about the Independence speeding along on it sea trials.......... 45 knots or about 53 mph............ and a sustained 44 knots for four hours in 6 foots seas against a 25 knot head wind............... not too shabby.

Trent do you have plans on doing the USS Freedom? Since we still don't know which one will be "declared the winner" .

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barry- i did put a coat of thinned paint on it to try and clean it up a bit.

john- i do plan on doing the Freedom. been gathering references for some time now.
i havnt decided weather to do that or the USS New York next.

[APA-168]

Freedom please! Although either one is most welcome! Can't wait to get my hands on Independence!

[Wyvern]

Trent- where's your Lafayette-class SSBN in your design queue? Just curious....

And I'm with Avery- Freedom!

Wyvern

[rmks2000]

Beautiful job on the chopper. Especially considering the scale.

[jleslie48]

Beta-builder time????


I volunteer.

[Wyvern]

Get in line!

Wyvern

[jleslie48]

Get in line!

Wyvern


I thought the line forms behind me...

[Wyvern]

funny, I thought it formed behind ME! ;-)

It's good that there's a line at all of people wanting to build this- speaks volumes for the quality of Trent's work.

Wyvern

[nothing]

Trent- where's your Lafayette-class SSBN in your design queue? Just curious....

And I'm with Avery- Freedom!

Wyvern

dont worry. i am unfolding the HMS Astute now. when thats done ill start the ssbn.paulhbell has money invested in the Astute so i need to complete that one first. im still gathering resources for the other ships.

[NimitzFan]

LCS -2 USS Independence - 1/200 scale - who could hold back - I didn't - and already bought and downloaded.

But, I have a question - could it reasonably be built as a Waterline model? I have a number of other 1/200 scale ships and have built them all that way.

I've been through the model - all 56 pages! and it really isn't clear for me if the outriggers are supported through the main deck or not.

Thanks!

[jleslie48]

can we see the directions before purchasing?

[nothing]

LCS -2 USS Independence - 1/200 scale - who could hold back - I didn't - and already bought and downloaded.

But, I have a question - could it reasonably be built as a Waterline model? I have a number of other 1/200 scale ships and have built them all that way.

I've been through the model - all 56 pages! and it really isn't clear for me if the outriggers are supported through the main deck or not.

Thanks!

the center hull would be easy just leave off the bottom section. the sponsons would have to be cut at the water line and have the bottom reinforced. they are modular and glue flush to the outer edge of the upper mid hull that sticks out from the main hull.

jleslie48 pm an addy ill send the instructions to you.

[jleslie48]

jleslie48 pm an addy ill send the instructions to you.


Thanks! -jleslie48 == [email protected]

[doctormax]

me not the best of builder so I will wait to see the build threads ;) I hope someone does one of this by the way..

[paulhbell]

Hey nothing don't just do the Astute for me, I sent the plans in good faith. I didn't want anything back, you've done plenty of models in the past that I've downloaded for free.

By the way this ship looks good, should have said earlier.

[rmks2000]

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I've looked over the schematics (haven't printed the kit out yet) and am a little confused about the parts numbering on the hull and sponsons. Also, any tips on building them, such as do you build the hull sides first and then insert the formers?

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rmks2000. each section is a contained module. meaning it doesnt rely on other sections for construction. the top structures fold down the sides put in formers. the mid sections glue sides to bottom then place formers. lower hull build the formers and roll skin onto them. sponsons score centerline form v and put in formers. does that help?


paul- thank you again. i have a lot of work done on the astute. besides i like the looks of it:)

[rmks2000]

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Yes that helps, thanks. I'm planning to start the build soon.

[ATSailor]

Hello,

I am new here and i arrived searching for LCS 2 plans. My intention is to build a large scale speed R/C model. Anyone knows where can i buy/download those plans?

[Scott K]

There is a cardstock model avaialble at Ecardmodels.com, that would be a good starting point. In particular, here; 1/200 LSC2 USS Independence Paper Model (http://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-200-lsc2-uss-independence-paper-model.html) It's the same model you can see being developed earlier in this thread.


Scott K.

[ATSailor]

Thanks Scott,

Those plans i found somewhere else as free download (if anyone need, just ask and i will send).
Unfortunately, those are helpfull for outside details like windows, etc. I need hull sections and water lines because intention is to build 1/65 boat with graupner water jet engines. This scale was result of minimum inner space of center hull required to assamble turbines. This is good also for smoke simulators, evacuation pipes for cooling water, etc.
As a sample, i just finished after 2 years and from two "build the bismark" kits, R/C bismark and tirpitz. Because my very young son is interested to help his father and to build something, i decided targets for next 2-3 years: LCD2, Visby Class Corvette - "GHOST" and 1/6 JU87D2 winter cammo 1944 russian front. I selected those ships because they ar spectacular on one side, large scale building allow to make very nice details and are easy to build shapes. Maybe later my son will be more interested in research, read and learn than usual youth habbits - facebook, drink and clubs... :)
Back on track - Thanks again for your comment and maybe you know something also about hull sections and water lines drawings.

Adrian