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Cybermac
10-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Hello everyone!

For a quite long I am making my B-737-300 in 1:72 scale...
Everything because of poor quality drawings and a lack of time...

Here are some photos...

Now I am searching for a propper drawing which shows the main gear and a position of wheel wells...
(I have got only one from old Air Pictorial from 1970's!)

Any help will be appreciated!:cool:

Many thanks!

Cybermac

Cybermac
10-31-2009, 03:45 PM
Hello guys!

And here we've got a wings section comparing to the lenght of the fuselare...

('Le Wings' - I could say, if You remember Monty Python's flying sheep sketch)http://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

Now I'll try to do this wing-fuselage section...

Cheers!

Cybermac

Cybermac
11-28-2009, 10:56 AM
Hi!

I have just prepaired a part which is between a wing and a fuselage...

Cybermac

BARX2
11-29-2009, 08:45 AM
That's a great looking model! Keep up the good work. Maybe this site will be helpful to you: The Boeing 737 Technical Site (http://www.b737.org.uk/)

peter taft
11-29-2009, 09:26 AM
Great job so far :) Good to see that you are taking the time and trouble to get the cart perfect, this bird is well worth that extra effort ;) Keep it coming :)

Cybermac
11-30-2009, 08:52 AM
Hello!

Many thanks for your kind words which are giving me mor energy to work on 737!
I have to leave the weel wells and all gear stuff for a better times when I gonna get some better drawings...

And now the progress lookis like this...

Bast regards

Cybermac

Cybermac
12-27-2009, 06:58 PM
Hello!

Now a fuselage and wings fitted all together waiting for a glue...

Cybermac

peter taft
12-27-2009, 08:09 PM
Hello!

Now a fuselage and wings fitted all together waiting for a glue...

Cybermac

Hi, good to see you are still at it friend. Have you decided what Livery you are going to be applying when she's completed ? Look forward to seeing her completed some day. All the best. Pete. :)

willygoat
12-27-2009, 08:45 PM
A Southwest livery would be cool, as they only fly the 737. Oooo, maybe their Shamu Sea World one :D

Cybermac
12-29-2009, 07:36 PM
Hello guys!

Thanks for your kind words!
Hope I'll finish a stabilizers before a New Year.

Southwest - is one of my favourite painting schemes. I am just a begginer with paint.net/Corell, but later or sooner, I hope, we will see my B-737 in Southwest colours:)

Cybermac

RyanShort
12-29-2009, 08:16 PM
A Southwest livery would be cool, as they only fly the 737. Oooo, maybe their Shamu Sea World one :D
Naaah, gotta go with the Texas Flag! Even if the Shamu one was originally from my town at Sea World.

Ryan

Cybermac
01-04-2010, 07:22 PM
Hello!

Here is an effect of my recent work - horizontal stabilizers and engine nr. 2

In the corner of photo - another idea for painting:)

After a long time all those pieces of cardboard are getting a shape of 737:D

Best regards

Cybermac

Zathros
01-04-2010, 07:28 PM
What a very nice model. I for one am impressed with how clean it came out and the Jet engine nacelle detail is excellent.

Willja67
01-04-2010, 07:37 PM
I'm impressed! Very nice looking model. What programs are you using to design it?

peter taft
01-04-2010, 08:09 PM
What a very nice model. I for one am impressed with how clean it came out and the Jet engine nacelle detail is excellent.

Totally agree with all this :)

cmdr199212
01-05-2010, 07:01 AM
yes, it looks excellent!

Cybermac
01-07-2010, 06:28 AM
Hello!

This model is an 'old school' of designing model:)
Just like all airliners from 'Maly Modelarz', 'Kranich', Schreiber-Bogen or the ones made by Rob Carleen etc.

The only programe I am using so far is Cone3D - for exhaust cones in the CFM-56 engines.

Best regards

Cybermac

Willja67
01-07-2010, 12:08 PM
Well then I am extremely impressed.

cmdr199212
01-09-2010, 07:24 AM
so, what do you have to do next? the engine pylons? And then landing gear? Cool stuff dude, its looking great!

Cybermac
01-10-2010, 11:57 PM
Hello!

Thanks for your kind opinion!!
Yes, pylons is the next step to finish the prototype. Later on I want to put 'some colours' on model. For the main landing gear I still need to search for a better drawings...

cheers!

Cybermac

PEB
01-14-2010, 05:28 AM
This looks really good Cybermac! I've been through my manuals to see if I could come up with some drawings of the main landing gear. I just found two. Not something you can measure from, but I hope they will be a help. Keep up the good work! I'm following with interest!

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Cybermac
01-24-2010, 07:15 PM
Thanks for those drawings!

I am sure I'll sort out the main gear somehow...

The pylons, which I am doing recently, are little bit challenging. Small pieces of cardboard glued inside (yellow shape on the picture) are necessary to reinforce the pylon structure!

Also, I had to cut a little bit to fit the pylon properly to the wing, and to get a proper position for this part...

Best regards!:)

Cybermac

Cybermac
10-21-2010, 04:10 PM
Hello everyone!

Sorry for not being here for such a long time, but it was (and still is) a busy time.
Nice to see so many nice new designs!!!

Anyway, B-737 looks roughly just like on those photos...

Now I am thinking about the main gear and I am transfering all I done onto the paintnet

Cybermac

tedparkes
10-21-2010, 04:21 PM
Looking good, could be a model off of FG at this point, has about the same level of detail in the body and engines. I like it. cant wait till its done :D

Knife
10-21-2010, 04:37 PM
Welcome back, glad to see the project is still alive.

JMac
10-21-2010, 08:22 PM
Hi there Cybermac. I have access to drawings of the 737-300. However the drawings I have are small and the dimensions are illegible when I scanned them. Hopefully you can understand my interpretion of them. The nose landing gear is located 13ft 2in (4.0m) aft from the tip of the nose. The distance between the nose landing gear and the main gear is 40ft 10in (12.5m). And the distance between the main landing gear is 17ft 2in (5.2m). Hope this helps somewhat. Your 737 looks great! Keep up the good work.

chiawatkom
10-22-2010, 01:57 AM
Nice work, well done!!

Werner Smuts
10-22-2010, 05:00 AM
This is a Job well done. I work at a maintenance organization in South Africa, and we maintain several aircraft including 737-200's 300's 500's and cargo derivatives. I would one day realy love to build your 737.

Awesome job!

Cybermac
10-27-2010, 06:05 PM
Hello!

Those are the first effects of 'digitalisation'...

Cybermac

Cybermac
11-17-2010, 05:43 PM
Hello!

Flap jack fairing attached to the wing - that's my little progress.:)

Just 'only' landing gear left...

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

WB102
11-17-2010, 10:06 PM
Hi Cybermac..

Nice model.. I love it.

Here in Indonesia this Boieng 737 is the most familiar Aircraft..
The new is Boieng 737-900 ER.. with a long fuselage.

I think it would be great if you make this.

Good job :)

Cybermac
11-23-2010, 06:21 PM
Hello!

Thanks WB102!

It would be nice to see B-737-900 indeed!

Every new version of B-737 requires new engines and wings, so there is going to be a major work to do before I can make B-737NG, BBJ, B-737AEW&C or P-8...
(good scale drawings would be essential!!!)

I am planning to do NG versions as well, but first will be '400' and '500' as they are the closest ones to '300'.

'400' series needs a longer fuselage with a new set of windows, but '300' is very easy to convert to '500', and here is a drawing...

Cybermac
12-03-2010, 03:31 PM
Hello!

Paint.net seemed to be a bit rough, till I found two usefull 'plugins' which allow 'rotation' and 'mirror'.
So I am learning how to use them effectively for mirrors and other B-737 stuff;)

peter taft
12-03-2010, 07:01 PM
Good to see you are still at this my friend... rotation in your prog will be VERY beneficial to you ;)

Cybermac
12-27-2010, 06:18 PM
Hello!

Finally I found an acceptable drawings of the landing gear and a wheel wells. I just started from the main wheels.

And here is what I have done till my printer went on strike demanding a new cartridge...:mad: Sorry for the quality.

Cybermac

Ponytail
12-28-2010, 05:23 AM
Keep on going, Cybermac,

Your results sofar are very promising.
Like many others I think it will be an Honour to let my printer-ink run dry on your B-737!;)

Greetings
PT

Cybermac
04-15-2011, 12:32 AM
Hello everyone!

I am back on B-737!
Last days I designed the wheel from the front gear.
Not much time to focus on the model, but 'every little helps':)

Cybermac

peter taft
04-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Hey Mac, looking good. When you have got all the calculations made for this cart, please remember that some guys like to build tyres using stacked disks and sanding to profile - might be a good idea to make several notes along the design path for this purpose. You are doing a great job my friend.

whulsey
04-16-2011, 12:26 AM
Are you going to do a Southwest version with the optional opening sunroof?

Cybermac
04-16-2011, 07:00 AM
Good spot Peter!

I used to do like that myself - cardboard discs, sanding and black paint.
So there are going to be two versions of tyres:
- first - the one above,
- the second - drawings with dimensions and card discs.

Southwest painting scheme is one of my favourite, so there is going to be one I hope, but 'sunroof/cabrio' versions is only good for a sport cars:)

Cybermac

Rick Thomson
04-16-2011, 05:21 PM
Nice, I'd like to see this in Canadian Pacific colours, or Pacific Western Airlines.

Cybermac
06-16-2011, 04:14 PM
Hello everyone!

I am still missing couple of wheel well details/dimensions.

I wanted to go to Lasham Open Day, which is the one and only on which you can get close to airliners like B-737(!!!) and to measure what I need.
Unfortunately this year this very unique aviation venue is CANCELLED:confused:
Anyway, I hope to get them soon...

So far I am trying to make the main gear and wheels.

The main part is made by cardboard wrapped on a metal wire - paper clip. Also, I think, it could be made from ballpen refill - that would be one and only plastic part of the airplane.;)

The tyres will be done from 5 cardboard circles scratched and filled by my 'old friend' - superglue or by model filler. Tomorrow we'll see which one is more effective...

(The red line shows the dimension of the whell well)

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

peter taft
06-16-2011, 05:10 PM
Hey Mac, good to see that you are still working on this marvellous aircraft. The paper disks method of making wheels is one of the most common, and getting the tyre profile is perhaps easier on a spinning sanding disk, you can of course sand them by hand.... takes longer, but hey... there's no rush mate. Look forward to the next up-date.

Cybermac
06-19-2011, 07:57 AM
Hello!

Thank you Peter!

Sandpaper - putty, sandpaper - putty, sandpaper - putty...
That is the way it goes:cool:

Airliner Art
06-19-2011, 04:05 PM
Cybermac thank you for taking the time to design this cool 737. I'm sorry I didn't see this thread earlier or I would have responded. If you need help with your paint let me know...I think I may be able to help you along a bit. It's not hard but the learning curve can be a bit clumsy. Maybe I can help you streamline it a little.

Let me know....Art

Cybermac
06-19-2011, 05:25 PM
Help always welcome!

flightsimmer2010
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
if you want a cool livery try this, its for a project open sky 737-800 but it should fit as a new texture ;)

Cybermac
06-25-2011, 02:44 PM
Hi!

That's a fresh idea!
I know they were using B-737-400 just like the one here...
Photos: Boeing 737-4Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Pan-American-Airways/Boeing-737-4Q8/0481789/L/)

OK, Pan Am added to the list:cool:

Cheers!

flightsimmer2010
06-26-2011, 11:17 AM
if you join flightsim.com and search Boeing 737 under 2004airliners you could spend weeks (5513) hits getting textures you can convert for your base model they got them all including every southwest special livery ;)

Cybermac
06-29-2011, 06:21 PM
Hi!

Yes, free textures from flight simulators can be very usefull!
For the first time I used one of them for the wheels...

Still having some problems with the wheel wells dimensions as every drawing I found is showing bit different proportions!!:mad:
Anyway, soon I should get it sorted!

Airliner Art
06-29-2011, 10:09 PM
Awesome job my friend...thanks for keeping us updated.

Art

piginapoke
06-30-2011, 12:35 AM
Very impressive. Keep up the good work

peter taft
06-30-2011, 04:32 AM
Still following with great interest... great work Mac :)

Cybermac
07-11-2011, 02:25 PM
Hello everybody!

Thanks for your kind words my friends! It is nice to know that somebody likes my job!:)

It wasn't easy to desing such a small parts in 1:72, For a better efect they were designed in 1:36.
I made a drawings on a millimeter paper, later on scened them and made a digital edit (50% size) in Paintnet.
Puting them together in 1:72 is also a bit challenging;)
Full set consists of 9 parts parts + wheels.
For now there are 7 parts, so 2 more parts - struts will be glued soon...

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

doctormax
07-11-2011, 02:31 PM
looks really good from here

Airliner Art
07-11-2011, 02:32 PM
This is going to be a super nice model! That landing gear is well worth the wait! ...very good! Your dedication to detail in this project shows a lot of love for this plane...

Art

peter taft
07-11-2011, 05:13 PM
Hey there Mac, this project gets better and better - Great going with the cart thus far. You really are working this out well - keep going. Look forward to the next up-date. ;)

cdavenport
07-12-2011, 01:51 AM
designs AND builds!

cdavenport
07-12-2011, 01:57 AM
Question from someone who knows nothing of paper design.

Is it possible to design the model so that it builds in the same way the real thing is built? Instead of truncated cones, can the model be built as a series of curved sheets that simulate the panels on the real thing?

The reason I ask this is because the card stock we use can be rolled to into compound curves. You can't get too drastic with the curve, but if the model is large enough, the process is simple and the results outstanding.

Cybermac
07-12-2011, 06:17 AM
Thank you all guys!

cdavenport - I think it is possible to that with some airplanes, but I might not be possible with the modern ones. There are many large and curved parts which, in my oppinion, can't be copied onto the one and single paper shape.

Let's think that we would like to get a 'geometical shape of saddle'. It can be made from one piece of leather or metal but in case of cardboard which can't be twisted in many directions without breaking, we would need a couple of parts and cuts to get that shape...

Just my personal oppinion:)

RyanShort
07-12-2011, 06:45 AM
A lot of parts nowadays are made from Carbon Fiber and may have some very complex shape to them. That could perhaps be replicated with paper mache, but not with just a flat piece of paper being curved. That's actually been true for a good number of years at this point.

Ryan

cdavenport
07-12-2011, 10:21 AM
Thank you all guys!

cdavenport - I think it is possible to that with some airplanes, but I might not be possible with the modern ones. There are many large and curved parts which, in my oppinion, can't be copied onto the one and single paper shape.

Let's think that we would like to get a 'geometical shape of saddle'. It can be made from one piece of leather or metal but in case of cardboard which can't be twisted in many directions without breaking, we would need a couple of parts and cuts to get that shape...

Just my personal oppinion:)

Thank you!

Cybermac
07-17-2011, 07:09 AM
Hello!

And here is the full landing gear set (9 parts parts + wheels).
At the moment I am also working on digital edition of the CFM-56 engine.

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

Airliner Art
07-17-2011, 08:43 AM
Awesome detail...your right on it Mac...thanks for sharing bro...I'm proud of you!

Art

richkat
07-17-2011, 09:30 AM
Southwest has had some very cool paint jobs, check out some at Southwest Airlines Special Paint Jobs - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/-jon-/sets/1154371/)
.......Rich

Cybermac
07-24-2011, 04:36 AM
Thank you gentlemen!

I was just about to have a wheel well designed this weekend.
But... I received a proper dimensions of wheel well (which is for 1:1 airplane 109cm).
As it is different from the previous one I have to wait for some more dimensions from a friend, and for the third time work it all over again.:confused:
That's another lesson of patiency...

(1st - black lines, 2nd - red lines, 3rd - will be green:))

By that time I will try to make some digital edition.

Airliner Art
07-24-2011, 05:29 AM
Keep up the excellent work bro...it will be worth it all.

Art

peter taft
07-25-2011, 06:27 PM
Coming along very nicely indeed Mac... your patience is really paying off ;):)

Cybermac
10-16-2011, 02:34 PM
Hello!

It was about 3-4 months of waiting for B-737 wheel well dimensions, but now I have got it!
Many thanks to one good guy who measured the real plane for me!
Not much, but small step forward to show that B-737 is on the way:)

The red shape shows the first possible wheel well version and black one is that proper one.

Cybermac

peter taft
10-16-2011, 05:10 PM
Good to see you have a friend that was able to get the measurements you required Mac :)

Cybermac
12-05-2011, 04:02 AM
Hello!

Yesterday I managed to do the wheel well. It was taking so much time so I feel a real relief;)

The gear fits inside like in the real thing, and here is as it looks...

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

Leif Ohlsson
12-05-2011, 08:33 AM
Four months waiting for measures to be able to design a correct wheel well, and then pulling it off. That's perseverance - congrats! - L.

peter taft
12-05-2011, 05:48 PM
Hello!

Yesterday I managed to do the wheel well. It was taking so much time so I feel a real relief;)

The gear fits inside like in the real thing, and here is as it looks...

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

Looking very good, all the time waiting for the measurements to get things right, was well worth it ;)

Cybermac
12-06-2011, 05:21 AM
Thank you gentlemen!

It was a bit hard time, but now it is all sorted.:)
If I can tell something more, I just started to learn how to draw in Corel.
I am waiting for Christmas to have a bit of free time to develop my skills and to be able to show you something more from B-737.

Cybermac

Airliner Art
12-07-2011, 06:58 PM
Fits like a glove mac...a well/wheel much worth the wait...very nice...Art

cgutzmer
12-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Awesome! now thats what I call precision :)

Cybermac
04-30-2012, 02:58 PM
Hello Everybody!

It has been a long time since I could do something with my B-737, but I hope it is going to be finished one day!:)

Here is a drawing of the front gear giving an idea of what I am trying to do now. The design is going to be made in 1:36 for everything to be done properly.

All the best for all!

Cybermachttp://www.zealot.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

scon10
05-01-2012, 01:08 PM
Nice technical drawing. I will look forward to see how you translate this into a paper model. The geometrics of the retraction mechanism would also be very interesting.
Good work!

Cybermac
05-05-2012, 02:56 AM
Thanks for your reply Scon10!

From the very first moment my B-737 was planed as 1:72 model, but as my 'appetite for scale and accuracy' is growin I begun to design some of its parts in 1:36.
Even though I am a bit limited as I don't have any access to the real plane or proper scale drawings, photos of the details and dimensions...

Just to make the main wheel well I needed do wait for about 6 months. Anyway I am trying to do my best for 1:72 and to be OK for 1:50. As for those it can be a little simplified but I am leaving everything to be ready for any further upgrade for 1:33 (like retraction mechanism) if anybody would like to do so.:)

Here is another piece of the jigsaw - the part which is in pink colour on the drawing above. Hope it reflects the real thing:)

Cybermac

rj1234
07-10-2012, 12:11 PM
can i get a link if possable im new and i have a strong intrest in airliners

Cybermac
07-20-2012, 03:22 PM
Hi rj1234!

The model is not ready yet, I am going to do B-737 in a couple of different colours schemes.
Later on I am also thinking about this...:)

richkat
07-20-2012, 04:48 PM
Oh yea like that one...cant wait.....Rich

willygoat
07-20-2012, 10:54 PM
The good old Aussie Wedgetail. Good choice!

Cybermac
11-02-2012, 08:37 AM
Hello!

A lot of lovely designs around here, so I couldn't resist to post at least a bit from myself:)

B-737 front gear and wheel well designed in about 80% (CorelDRAW X5)

Cybermac

isievert
11-02-2012, 08:03 PM
I love what you did with the landing gear. It always pays to persevere along with getting the right references. If you rushed the design I don't think it will come out this good. Very inspiring.

Cybermac
11-24-2012, 05:28 PM
Hello!

Here is another step forward with a front gear.

The parts were designed in 1:36 but after I downscaled them to 1:72 they went very very small.
The main part is about 2.5 cm high.
I was planning to put a miniature steering cylinders, but I don't have a toothpicks at the moment;)

Putting it all together would be much more easy if I would go for 1:50:rolleyes:

Cybermac

peter taft
11-24-2012, 05:41 PM
I know how difficult it is to roll the tubes at this scale my friend, i have done a few - very tedious, but well worth the effort ! Your design and test build stages are going very well indeed.

Cybermac
11-26-2012, 08:29 AM
Hello!

Thanks for understanding Peter!
It is not easy especially when you are rolling very small rolls (1 mm or so in diameter) and the cardboard wants to crack much more than bend.

And here is a main strut with staring cylinders:)

Cybermac

Cybermac
11-26-2012, 07:32 PM
Hello!

Here comes the final thing...:)

Now 'only' digitalisation and colour adding:cool:
Please wish me good luck and time as busy period is coming;)

As I heard that some airlines don't like models with their colours, first I am going to consider those which colours were already present on paper models.

In other words B-737-300 may appear in schemes of:

KLM (B-747 Papertrade, DC-10 Leon Schuijt)
LOT (IL-62 Maly Modelarz)
British Airways (BAC-111 Leon Schuijt)
Delta (B-727 3-D Paper)

Cybermac

RyanShort1
11-27-2012, 03:12 PM
As I heard that some airlines don't like models with their colours, first I am going to consider those which colours were already present on paper models.
Why not contact Southwest directly about having permission to use their colors? It would seem that as progressively thinking as they are that they'd be happy to have more of their logo out there.

Ryan

peter taft
11-27-2012, 06:33 PM
Hello!

Here comes the final thing...:)

Now 'only' digitalisation and colour adding:cool:
Please wish me good luck and time as busy period is coming;)

As I heard that some airlines don't like models with their colours, first I am going to consider those which colours were already present on paper models.

In other words B-737-300 may appear in schemes of:

KLM (B-747 Papertrade, DC-10 Leon Schuijt)
LOT (IL-62 Maly Modelarz)
British Airways (BAC-111 Leon Schuijt)
Delta (B-727 3-D Paper)

Cybermac

Great Job Mac. I think Ryan's right, you could probably get permission to do what you want - after all it's great publicity for them {and the PM DOT COM Community} Good luck my friend.

Cybermac
11-29-2012, 07:18 AM
Yes, I will try to contact them. I am glad there is an interest in Southwest colours:-)
It would be a pity not to have B-737 in a colours of the biggest 737 operators!

peter taft
11-29-2012, 06:15 PM
Yes, I will try to contact them. I am glad there is an interest in Southwest colours:-)
It would be a pity not to have B-737 in a colours of the biggest 737 operators!

Go for it Mac...... ;):)

Idoitall
11-29-2012, 06:29 PM
+1 for SouthWest!

sgoti
11-29-2012, 08:14 PM
+1 for SouthWest!

+1 for SWA from me too!

Next questions is... Which scheme? Ya got Shamu, Colorado One, Lone Star One, Arizona One, as well as planes commemorating CA, FL, IL, MD, NV, NM... ;)

Or how about a plain plane that we can color ourselves? (So smart alecks like me can find out firsthand how tricky proper colo(u)ring can be? :);))

Knife
11-30-2012, 11:22 AM
I've already modeled the orange and blue ones, but always liked Shamu. Not to difficult, easy to get the correct color from the printer, and eye catching.

The basic orange Southwest color is hard to get consistant from my dot matrix printer.

XiLin108
11-30-2012, 11:57 PM
How about defunct airlines? Slovakia Air had a nice looking livery

Cybermac
12-01-2012, 06:01 PM
Hello!

I have just send an email to Southwest Airlines and received an automatic confirmation - let's wait 48 hours for response. :)

The defunct airlines are also in consideration, first I was thinking about MALEV (still can't believe they gone!), and Slovakia Air is also a good choice!

The other painting scheme which shouldn't give a problem could be a VIP scheme or even this unique military one;)

(photo from Pixstel - Aviation, Maritime, Wildlife & Military Vehicle Photography (http://www.pixstel.com))

peter taft
12-01-2012, 06:17 PM
CYBERair

Hope you get the go ahead Mac :)

richkat
12-01-2012, 10:31 PM
How about Janet Air, the Area 51 airlines......Rich

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Cybermac
12-02-2012, 03:50 PM
Hello!

The 'Janet Air - Area 51' are operating '200' and '600' versions which would need significant modifications of '300'.
So this is a subject for further development.

Anyway, I just received email from Southwest Airlines that my enquiry was forwarded to Customer Relations Department for further review.
7-10 it may take - they said.

richkat
12-02-2012, 03:59 PM
Looking forward to some SW colors, they have a bunch of cool paint jobs......Rich

richkat
12-02-2012, 04:47 PM
Here is my favorite paint job......Rich
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sgoti
12-04-2012, 12:14 AM
Hmm...

What about a "pm.com" scheme (And one for zealot as well, since you are posting there as well)?

Absolutely no idea what it would look like, just thought I'd run it up the flag pole and se who salutes.

umtutsut
12-04-2012, 07:22 AM
Hello!

The 'Janet Air - Area 51' are operating '200' and '600' versions which would need significant modifications of '300'.
So this is a subject for further development.

I once asked one of our accident investigators what the FAA's role would be if one of the Janet 737s crashed.

He said our inquiry would be answered with, "What crash?" ;)

:cool: Les (The Voice of Authority -- coming soon)

Cybermac
12-04-2012, 01:41 PM
Hello!

First there are going to be 'a real' scheme - just like this lovely 'Lone Star' from Southwest.
I heard about retirement of B-737-300 in Southwest, so I hope that 'Lone Star' is going to be kept in one piece and donated to some aviation museum!:cool:
I would really like to see it in real as many other 737's!

'The Janet 737 crash' - sounds like an old good 'Radio Yerevan joke' - very popular in Europe before the collapse of Soviet Union, often in form of question and answer, just like the one below...

Q: 'Is there a freedom of speech in S.U.?'
A: 'Yes, there is, but we think it is better to eat a white bread on the Black Sea (on sandy beaches) than eat a black bread on the White Sea (in the Siberian work camp);)

(Sorry for off-topic - next time it will go to 'Comedy Stand - Humour'):)

eagleclaw4935
12-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Cybermac that comes under the heading of plausible denigability.Or"What you talkin about Willis!"

Cybermac
12-05-2012, 05:18 AM
Hello Guys!

Tonight I received an answer from Southwest and this is not what we would like to see. Here is the main part of an email:

'Thank you so much for your inquiry. We are thrilled that you share our passion for aviation and you would like to design your B737 model after our very own Southwest colors. I'm sorry to disappoint but the paint design of our livery is proprietary to Southwest Airlines and as such that is not information that we are able to share.'

The email is comming from 'no reply' mail but I am going to challange it and try to ask two things:

1. Why the Southwest painting scheme can't be used on paper model if it is widely present on Aviation Simulators web sites (B-737 Southwest textures on Al-Aardvark, AvSim, etc.), so in effect what makes a digital model more privillaged to have that colour scheme than a model made from cardboard?:mad:

2. Why the Southwest painting scheme can't be used on paper model if it is widely available as a decal sheets for plastic models (DrawDecal, ScaleLiners, JetDecal, etc.) so in effect what makes a plastic model more privilaged to have that colour scheme?:mad:

If there would be nothing I can do with that, I will start from defunct airlines liveries and then after kindly asking the airlines one-by-one if they are OK with their painting scheme on my model.
I can only suppose: KLM, LOT, Delta can be OK with that and the some others as well.
I am also considering VIP/Government schemes (Chile, South Korea) - hope they wil be OK, but nothing is sure at the moment.

Guys, please correct me if I am doing something wrong, ANY suggestions strongly appreciated!!!

umtutsut
12-05-2012, 06:44 AM
I got this address off the media contacts part of the SWA website.

For Branded Entertainment opportunities, please e-mail [email protected] ([email protected])

You might try writing directly to her/him and make the points in your post. also, if you're planning to make your 737 without cost, stress that aspect and note it's free advertising :) for the Southwest brand!

:cool: Les (The Voice of Authority -- Coming Soon)

sgoti
12-05-2012, 09:25 AM
I got this address off the media contacts part of the SWA website.

For Branded Entertainment opportunities, please e-mail [email protected] ([email protected])

You might try writing directly to her/him and make the points in your post. also, if you're planning to make your 737 without cost, stress that aspect and note it's free advertising :) for the Southwest brand!

:cool: Les (The Voice of Authority -- Coming Soon)

Agreed- Stress the fact that this is not for profit, and would be free advertising for Southwest.

You might also point out the free advertising that other carriers are getting from Canon: Namely, British Airways (747), Air India (777), Air Tahiti (A340), etc.

You might also wait to ask again until you have released other liveries first, and can show SWA what a quality paper model looks like, and by the way, wouldn't it be cool for them to see their livery on one of these too?

SJPONeill
12-05-2012, 01:45 PM
Just leave it be and apply the forgiveness v permission rule...by naming all those other companies, you increase the risk of putting the spotlight on them as well...if it's a free model, just do it...

richkat
12-05-2012, 04:43 PM
Go ahead and build one and send it to them......Rich

peter taft
12-05-2012, 06:15 PM
It's their loss Mac, you would have been doing them a service. If someone said to me, i'm doing this for non-profit and my name would be all over it, i'd jump at it. The fact you asked and they refused permission makes it more awkward to continue down that line, but like others have said, try sending a built model to show them what they would be missing out of. Good luck with whatever way you decide go.

SJPONeill
12-05-2012, 07:08 PM
Don't poke the snake...they've said that they're not interested so you sending them a pic of you disregarding that is hardly likely to make then find any better about the idea...and then you really are likely to get a CND...

mcusanelli
12-06-2012, 08:59 AM
After all the work you put into this, you should try to stay
under the radar', especially since this model looks to be the best 737 anyone's ever done in paper. Chances are the powers that be at SW won't understand the paper model thing anyway....Most people I show my models to are perplexed, especially when I tell them it's for free in many cases, so why cause yourself more grief? What ever you choose to do, I wish you the best of luck, as this is a beautiful model beautifully done :)
Mike

Cybermac
12-06-2012, 10:48 AM
Hello Guys!

You are a fantastic group of people - many thanks for support!:cool:

When I stared my design of B-737 I wrote a couple of e-mails to Boeing asking for any kind of support with a proper scale drawings, and their answer was very similar to what I got from SW.

Just like 'mcusanelli' said they totally don't understand the idea of paper modelling!:mad:

Anyway, I haven't given up, and slowly slowly gathered all pieces I could find.
Just like my mother taught me: 'If they kick you out through the door, you need to come back through the window - don't give up!';)

I will write an e-mail to the other person from SW, but now I will focus on 'digital job' and schemes of defunct B-737-300 users (MALEV, SABENA, BALKAN, New York Air?, etc.)
and then with portfolio of such liveries, and probably some others, I will go to SW again!:)

If you have any suggestions with defunct B-737 users and schemes, please let me know.

I almost forgot, my current situation (studies and lack of job) suggests me to make the model downloadable with some kind of fee.
If it's going to be like that - please don't worry - it will not be much.
And for those of you guys, who would like to contribute with B-737-300 recolours, I think I have some kind 'free' idea:)

And after all, there is a lot of other options except of SW, please see the collage I made from my photos from various airports in Europe (2000-2010).:)

mcusanelli
12-06-2012, 02:51 PM
Yup, just as I suspected, they haven't got a clue! Don't keep pokin' them, there are tons of cool liveries....How about this one, Varig from Brasil. I love the 60' retro look of this one.....

sgoti
12-06-2012, 03:49 PM
I almost forgot, my current situation (studies and lack of job) suggests me to make the model downloadable with some kind of fee.
If it's going to be like that - please don't worry - it will not be much.
And for those of you guys, who would like to contribute with B-737-300 recolours, I think I have some kind 'free' idea:)

Mac-

As much work as you have put into this, you should be compensated for your time.

I had several livery suggestions in mind, but they were not the -300 model. Will have to do some more research...

I would be willing to help with some recoloring (as much as I am able), do I need to contact you further?

sgoti
12-06-2012, 08:10 PM
+1 for SWA from me too!

Next questions is... Which scheme? Ya got Shamu, Colorado One, Lone Star One, Arizona One, as well as planes commemorating CA, FL, IL, MD, NV, NM... ;)

D'oh!

Just realized all the schemes I mentioned above are Next Gen 737, not the -300 version.

Never mind...

sgoti
12-06-2012, 09:47 PM
Just realized all the schemes I mentioned above are Next Gen 737, not the -300 version.

Sheesh...

If I post in the forest and no one is around, am I still wrong? :eek:

Shamu, Lone Star One, Arizona One, and California One were (are) all -300 models.

rickstef
12-06-2012, 10:05 PM
my Civil Airliner recognition/spotter days have long passed me, i used to be up on various models but not any more

Ponytail
12-07-2012, 03:30 AM
My suggestion:
A white model with a reference-lines scheme.
With this (almost) everyone can do it's own repaint.
I always get into difficulties to keep lining straight at the cones following the central tube (as in most modern airliner models)...
One could even think about a full white lay-out and a full referenced file. The last coul be used as a reference-layer in f.i. PSP.

sgoti
12-07-2012, 12:05 PM
my Civil Airliner recognition/spotter days have long passed me, i used to be up on various models but not any more

Basically, fuselage length, wing shape, and vertical stabilizer height:

737 Family (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/B737Familyv1.0.png)

I think the -300 could be lengthened/shortened to make the -400 and -500 variants.

Cybermac
12-07-2012, 12:20 PM
Thank you all for support and understanding!

Yes indeed, B-737-500 is just the same aeroplane with shortened fuselage, and B-737-400 is lengthened one + a tailskid.

More details here:
The Boeing 737 Technical Site (http://www.b737.org.uk/737classic.htm#737-400)

sgoti
12-12-2012, 03:00 PM
Speaking of logojets, anyone remember these?

WP Simpsons 737 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Western-Pacific/Boeing-737-301/0240983/L/&sid=de91aab9afdd059c7d9227d745a9193c)

willygoat
12-12-2012, 03:14 PM
That's pretty sweet. It would be even better if the interior were themed too. The lavatories could be like Homers office at the power plant.

Cybermac
12-18-2012, 04:52 AM
Hello!

You reminded me one model which I have seen long time ago...
(Plastic one)
Model Makers—Andrezej Ziober (http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/ziober.htm)

And here is the interior:
http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/Zi02Junkers.jpg

I am sure the author also made a lavatory (even a paper roll;-)
Everything was made from scratch long time before first sets of 'improvements' for Ju-52 model were on the market!!!

Coming back to B-737, I am not considering the interior this time. Maybe in the future...?

Cybermac
12-30-2012, 07:37 PM
Hello!

I had not much time during the Christmas for B-737, but anyway here is my first go with colours and painting scheme of MALEV.

I checked the decals and masks in 1:144 and textures from flight simulators, but the only convincing source are the photos (HA-LED, HA-LEX, etc.) to get the painting scheme as it is.

I am still a beginner so any comment will be appreciated!
(Sorry I don't know why is this drawing so blurred when attached)

Cybermac

Sumato
01-07-2013, 11:20 PM
Good Choice! Malev has a great, uncomplicated paint scheme, that you'll have no trouble reproducing. Also they're out of business, so there should be no trademark issues. :)

Cybermac
01-11-2013, 05:18 AM
That is right Sumato!

By the way, I have seen them three times in Gatwick.
Only one time I managed to make a decent photo by the hole climbing the perimeter fence:)
Sadly, some months later all Malev gone...

P.S. Guys, can anybody point me any defunct airlines form U.S.A. which were using B-737-300?
I was considering New York Air, but looks like they were integrated into the Continental (United Airlines).

Sumato
01-11-2013, 11:19 AM
This page includes ALL models of 737, but you'll have no trouble finding 737-300 current and past operators:

List of Boeing 737 operators - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_operators)

RyanShort1
01-14-2013, 10:25 PM
That is right Sumato!

By the way, I have seen them three times in Gatwick.
Only one time I managed to make a decent photo by the hole climbing the perimeter fence:)
Sadly, some months later all Malev gone...

P.S. Guys, can anybody point me any defunct airlines form U.S.A. which were using B-737-300?
I was considering New York Air, but looks like they were integrated into the Continental (United Airlines).
Braniff?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Braniff+737&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=bRz&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Mtr0UMKZAerk2QWMt4CICg&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1185&bih=549

Ryan

sgoti
01-15-2013, 01:29 AM
Bzzzt!

Sorry, Braniff operated the -200 version.

Cybermac
01-15-2013, 05:26 AM
Hello!

The '200' version is going to be the next step, so Braniff can be one of them:)

Cybermac
01-16-2013, 03:56 AM
Hello!

I was always thinking about Braniff 'Big Orange' B-747 model just by the way.:)
The B-737-200 in Braniff fleet weren't that colourful like B-707, DC-8 or B-727.
But maybe we can think about this scheme...

Photo Zip Air Boeing 737-217 Adv. C-GCPO (http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=262323)

They had also blue, green and pink - for Barbie Girls probably;)

Cybermac
02-01-2013, 09:17 AM
Hello!

I managed to do a bit of 'digitalisation' today.
I am still learning how to deal with Corel, and for the very first time I tried to put some shades on the windows.

Here is how it looks...

All the best!

Cybermac

sgoti
02-01-2013, 01:34 PM
Looking good, Mac!

peter taft
02-01-2013, 07:05 PM
Yay... you're really getting there now my friend, great start on the digi work ;)

Cybermac
02-04-2013, 04:09 PM
Hello guys!

As always I would like to thank for your kind words!

The 'digitalisation' consumes a lot of time, so I think my future designs will be 100% digital.

All the best!

Cybermac

Sumato
02-04-2013, 08:44 PM
I'm excited to see the parts pages when they come together. This is the most fun part of designing, other than doing the test builds. Construction diagrams, however, are no fun at all to make. Blech!

Cybermac
02-07-2013, 04:08 AM
Hello!

You are absolutely right Sumato, it is really exciting when the parts are getting together. A pieces of cardboard starts their new live as an airplane!:cool:

Recently I had some problems with computer especially with Vista.
(By the way as my friend from Latvia says VISTA in Latvian means... CHICKEN/HEN;))

Anyway, after all I installed my copy of Siatki 4.1 from GreMir and gave it a try with CFM-56 engine inlet.

Looks like using the digital designing can really speed up the whole process:) Here is what I made just in a couple of minutes...
(Red lines added just for better overall view)

All the best!

Cybermac
03-07-2013, 04:45 PM
Hello!

I have just found this beauty which can to be the other 'no problem with rights' painting scheme - new addition to 'FUERZA AEREA COLOMBIANA .:cool:

'FAC 1205/MERCURIO' is mentioned as '400' but with one emergency door, for me, looks much more as '300' version:)

Photo with original resolution here...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K4T0I1LeMWU/UOxdnQbby0I/AAAAAAAAAHs/WEh1VXZqBWw/s1600/Avion+Carga+Boeing+737F+Fuerza+Aerea+COlombiana.jp g

Cybermac
03-15-2013, 08:16 AM
Hello!

Here is another idea for painting scheme of B-737-300 which can go together with LOT...

Full resolution and additional information here:
Shipbucket.com • View topic - Polish Wings (http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3866&sid=a34f6d7af7e45766cdd13297a5ead99d&start=80)

Ostoja - thank you for sharing:-)

Cybermac
06-30-2013, 05:43 AM
Hello!

For the last months I have pretty much on my head (I got married, studies, new job, and you can name it...) so no time for my project.

As my love gave me OK for 'a big model' so B-737 it is going to be in 1:36.

This weekend I am enjoying a bit of free time, so I managed to do the blue nose o B-737 for MALEV model.
This is first piece of my vector disigning in the colour. The design of cabin shape or finishing the engine will be the next step.
In case of any problem I will use the 'old school' pieces as a help.This is first piece of my vector disigning in the colour.

And here it is the nose...

All the best!:)

Cybermac

willygoat
06-30-2013, 07:42 AM
Looks nice and smooth. I'm looking forward to seeing this big thing come together.

sgoti
06-30-2013, 08:45 AM
Hello!

For the last months I have pretty much on my head (I got married, studies, new job, and you can name it...) so no time for my project.

As my love gave me OK for 'a big model' so B-737 it is going to be in 1:36.

This weekend I am enjoying a bit of free time, so I managed to do the blue nose o B-737 for MALEV model.
This is first piece of my vector disigning in the colour. The design of cabin shape or finishing the engine will be the next step.
In case of any problem I will use the 'old school' pieces as a help.This is first piece of my vector disigning in the colour.

And here it is the nose...

All the best!:)

Cybermac

Congrats on the marriage, my friend!

I can certainly understand the "no time" problem... ;)

Cybermac
06-30-2013, 09:01 AM
Great thanks my friends!

Just by the way - marriage changes a lot, but this is the other story:)

Soon I am going to work on the cabin shape.
I have an idea how to make it better than in old 1:72 model.
The references I am going to use are the boeing CAD drawings (a bit rough), 1:144 plastic model from Revell, and probably...
the oryginal nose of E-3D Sentry which I am hoping to see on a static display at Waddington Air Show next weekend.

I hope I will not be stopped by the army taking some top secret photos and measurements of that old lady;)

All the best!

Cybermac

VinceM
06-30-2013, 11:41 AM
Congrats on your marriage. May you have a lifetime of happiness. If your girl supports your pursuit of paper modelling, she's a keeper.

Cybermac
06-30-2013, 01:48 PM
Hello!

She is OK with my hobby.
One day, some months ago, a friend, also a paper modeler, said:
'Look, not only your man is that crazy' showing her a big cardboard airplane on Skype;)
I hope she is pretty aware what it is all about:cool:

OK, just one little more thing for today.
I took some photos of plastic model 1:144 to try get the necessary profile
and then I draw a shape in Corel.

I used a telephoto lens at about on DSLR at about 150mm, so I think that little model was never that BIG before hahaha;)
Later on, I will try to compare it with the shapes from the drawings I have.

Big thanks and regards to all of you guys!

peter taft
06-30-2013, 04:57 PM
Great to see you still at it Mac. Pleased you are in wedded bliss now :) Keep on keeping on my friend ;)

Cybermac
08-09-2013, 02:20 PM
Hello!

Just a quick update.
I just found and bought a good scale drawings of '737 older brother' - B-727.
They looks fantastic and I believe they will help me to get the cabin shape properly some time in the future.

http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/adwg41ani.jpg

Regards to all designers

Cybermac

peter taft
08-09-2013, 04:54 PM
Very nice Mac. I know you are still working on the B-737, but would you be able to include a B-727 along the way ? the LONGER version {can't recall the variant number off hand} One of my favs for sure ;)

southwestforests
08-10-2013, 02:30 AM
Would the photos and line drawings in here be of any help?
Boeing 737 At The Gate (SC) - Squadron Signal - SS28002 (http://www.squadron.com/Boeing-737-At-Gate-SC-Squadron-Signal-p/ss28002.htm)
Description http://www.squadron.com/v/vspfiles/templates/squadron/images/clear1x1.gif http://www.squadron.com/v/vspfiles/templates/squadron/images/clear1x1.gif http://www.squadron.com/v/vspfiles/templates/squadron/images/DBox_Border_Left_Top.gif http://www.squadron.com/v/vspfiles/templates/squadron/images/clear1x1.gif http://www.squadron.com/v/vspfiles/templates/squadron/images/DBox_Border_Right_Top.gif http://www.squadron.com/v/vspfiles/templates/squadron/images/clear1x1.gif Tidwell. Few commercial aircraft have enjoyed a production run that spans more than four decades and service in nearly every nation on Earth. The Boeing 737 has such a track record. Takes the reader on a journey through the continuing story of the 737 from the first aircraft to roll of the production line in the 1960s, to the very latest airframes being delivered to major airlines today. The book also offers the reader a look at some of the most interesting 737 liveries as well as parts of the aircraft that few people get to see. Also covered are business jets, cargo carriers, and military versions of the 737 that are less familiar even to the thousands of air travelers who have flown aboard this legendary Boeing liner. Illustrated with over 220 photographs; 96 pages.

Cybermac
08-10-2013, 08:23 AM
Hello!

Peter - B-727-200 is taken onto the list:)
Lovely classic tri-jet airliner. Just to mention when I started my airplane spotting hobby I managed to see one of the last DHL flying ones in Europe (arround 2000). Later on I catched some stationary at Southend and Lasham (VIP versions).

Southwestforests - thank you for the link, this book may be a good reference.

Regards

Cybermac

Flanker37
01-01-2014, 02:24 PM
Hey Cybermac, its probably a bit late, seeing as how much work you have put into this already... But!

Have you seen the brand new Orlik 767-600 in 1/50th scale? Man that is a well thought out model, thought you should check it out (steal some ideas) wink wink

Cybermac
01-02-2014, 05:48 PM
Hi!

I am glad my B-737 is not forgotten:)

Yes, I have seen the announcement from Orlik - impressive, the same like the other one made by our friend Jeremiah.

My model is ready, only need to be redrawn in vector graphics - if we are talking about 1:72. 1:36 that is a bit different story as I would like to make it more accurate. Lack of time and family commitments aren't giving me and B-737 much chance at the moment, but I do not give up!:cool:

herky
01-02-2014, 07:37 PM
there is a b737-500 in 1;50 scale around by paperarts in lufthansa scheme.it might give you some tips if you can find it

Cybermac
01-08-2014, 12:04 PM
Thanks for giving me support Herky and Flanker37!

Yes, I looked here and there on this model, but the best was when I could walk around a real aeroplane some 3-4 years ago.

Here is a tinny bit I made last time...

Best regards to you all!

Cybermac

RunwayOneSixRight
04-23-2014, 12:57 AM
Thanks for giving me support Herky and Flanker37!

Yes, I looked here and there on this model, but the best was when I could walk around a real aeroplane some 3-4 years ago.

Here is a tinny bit I made last time...

Best regards to you all!

Cybermac

I can't wait for this!

-RunwayOneSixRight (Matthew)

Cybermac
06-07-2014, 01:19 PM
Hello!

Thank you RunwayOneSixRight!
B-737 is not forgotten:-)
Please see another bit with the MALEV colours applied on the tail.

Regards

Knife
06-07-2014, 01:48 PM
Keep on it Cybermac. I've had the CSS Arkansas on the back burner for the past 5 years.

croden
06-07-2014, 02:06 PM
This will be a great model when finished ;)

Cybermac
06-28-2014, 09:11 AM
Hello!

As my Mrs. gone for a short holiday I can do a bit with B-737;-)
Here is a 'digitalised' cabin which needs a bit of adjusting.

Regards

Cybermac

willygoat
06-28-2014, 06:48 PM
Looking good! The windscreen is a bit short, but you have the beginning for the tricky nose section done well. Can't wait to see more progress.

Cybermac
06-30-2014, 05:31 PM
Hi Willygoat!

The nose is not as easy as it seems, but Hope I will get it.
I am putting some colours/logo/reg on the fuselage now.
And here is the nose -a bit more MALEV-ish;)

Regards

Cybermac

peter taft
06-30-2014, 05:35 PM
Great to see you back with this project Mac ;):)

croden
07-01-2014, 12:45 AM
Can't wait build this! Looks so accurate

Cybermac
08-03-2014, 05:41 AM
Hello!

A bit update on MALEV's tail...
Last segment needs some adjustments, also the colour of APU will be a bit brighter to make it more visible.

Next thing to do - vertical and horizontal stabilizers:)

Best regards!

Cybermac

croden
08-03-2014, 06:14 AM
Hello!

A bit update on MALEV's tail...
Last segment needs some adjustments, also the colour of APU will be a bit brighter to make it more visible.

Next thing to do - vertical and horizontal stabilizers:)

Best regards!

Cybermac
Very nice, looks great

szabolcsvolanos
08-03-2014, 12:22 PM
That's very good model building, and it is have my favourite (and home) airline livery.

Looks great. What registration do you planed from MALÉV?

Cybermac
08-04-2014, 03:13 PM
Hello!

Croden and Szabolcsvolanos - thank you for your kind words gentlemen!
Szabo - I think you are a first person from Hungary who noticed my B-737 with MALEV's colours;) The reg. is HA-LEX.

Regs

szabolcsvolanos
08-05-2014, 04:30 AM
HA-LEX is a beautifully plane in the old MALÉV fleet.
Why do you choose this livery?

Cybermac
08-05-2014, 12:26 PM
Hello!

Well, I always liked their colours.
One of my other hobbies is aviation spotting.
Always wanted to make a nice photo of MALEV but only 1 time had this chance before they went out of business. As they are not flying any more I simply decided 'I need to have that model!':)

By the way, there are many other nice 'classic schemes' like BA, LOT, Continental, Delta, Southwest, Sabena... which I would like to see on my B-737 model

croden
08-05-2014, 12:40 PM
Hello!

Well, I always liked their colours.
One of my other hobbies is aviation spotting.
Always wanted to make a nice photo of MALEV but only 1 time had this chance before they went out of business. As they are not flying any more I simply decided 'I need to have that model!':)

By the way, there are many more nice 'classic schemes' like BA, LOT, Continental, Delta, Southwest, Sabena... which I would like to see on my B-737 model
Agreed! I'd also like to see KLM.

Cybermac
08-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Hello!

From what I was told there may be a problem with KLM as they are very protective about their logo.:confused:
I know it is not the same, but there shouldn't be any issue with Air Holland for example.

croden
08-05-2014, 03:28 PM
Hello!

From what I was told there may be a problem with KLM as they are very protective about their logo.:confused:
I know it is not the same, but there shouldn't be any issue with Air Holland for example.
Oh yes, I forgot your model will be payed. Its not an issue with free models

Cybermac
10-06-2014, 03:27 PM
Hello gents!

Just a quick question for designers...

Everything seemed to be OK on the computer, but after the vertical stabiliser came out from the printer, I noticed that black lines are almost invisible!:mad:

Should I make them all lines say at least 30% white?:confused:
Or maybe, I should leave them black on the red/white/green shape and make them white on the blue one?:confused:
How can I go about it?

Any advice would be appreciated!

Many thanks on advance!

Cybermac

John Bowden
10-06-2014, 08:48 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of paper model designing and recoloring!!!! lol

There are many, many schools on this, but for me I like to make the lines lighter on dark backgrounds in order to see them. And yes I know on the real thing it's hard to see panel lines and such.......... but these are models and modelers like to see panel lines!

Cybermac it's really up to you, but I vote to see the lines, so make them lighter on dark backgrounds.

On the 787 I'm now doing it was suggested to me to go with 70% gray on white backgrounds and 30% gray on dark backgrounds.........;)

Cybermac
10-14-2014, 01:51 PM
Hello!

John - thank you for the advice, I have done exactly as you said and I think now the tail looks much better:cool:

Also, as the 'white hairline' wasn't visible on the dark blue I changed the lines onto 0.5 and 0.75 accordingly.

I am just only not sure what I should do with this tail...;)
File:G-DOCF B737-436 British Aws ZRH 31AUG98 (6291871478).jpg - Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:G-DOCF_B737-436_British_Aws_ZRH_31AUG98_(6291871478).jpg)

All the best

Cybermac

John Bowden
10-14-2014, 06:53 PM
Glad I could help.............

I think you are on your own with that one............. :eek:

richkat
10-14-2014, 07:21 PM
Have you seen Southwest Airlines new colors?......Rich

223200

223201

Cybermac
10-15-2014, 02:13 PM
Hello!

Yes, I know that painting, lovely one, Southwest is on my top list, but the airline is very protective about their logo.:confused:

Anyway, if you remember Skyeurope, they had very similar painting scheme;)

Also, they had some very pretty Slovakian girls pictured on their aeroplanes!:cool:

As this airline is defunct, there is no problem to use their colours at some point.

Regs

Cybermac

John Bowden
10-15-2014, 09:27 PM
Wow that is a dark blue fuselage............

croden
10-16-2014, 05:49 AM
Hello!

Yes, I know that painting, lovely one, Southwest is on my top list, but the airline is very protective about their logo.:confused:

Anyway, if you remember Skyeurope, they had very similar painting scheme;)

Also, they had some very pretty Slovakian girls pictured on their aeroplanes!:cool:

As this airline is defunct, there is no problem to use their colours at some point.

Regs

Cybermac
I kind of like it better than Southwest!

Cybermac
11-11-2014, 04:49 PM
Hello!

I have just done a bit more practice with the line shades...

Regards

Cybermac

John Bowden
11-11-2014, 06:23 PM
Looking Good!....... as Freddie Prince used to say.............

Cybermac
12-20-2014, 12:39 PM
Hello!

Recently I tried to get APU into the proper place. As it is not properly visible on any drawing I used some rear view photos...

Also, a little news from me is that I became a father of little baby boy, so everything is going to be a bit upside down for some 18-20 years in my place;)
Well, there is also a chance he will get the 'modelling passion' at some point:)

Kind regards

Father Cybermac

Cybermac
02-29-2016, 10:05 AM
Hello!

It has been a long time since my last post.

Recently I have done a bit with a cabin - 1:36 re-design.
Front two windows (2 per each side) will go together with upper part, and the last one (1 per each side) will be attached to the next fuselage segment.

kind regards

Cybermac

Cybermac
03-11-2016, 07:22 AM
Hello!

Yet not the ideal one, but together with two other segments...
Hope resembles the 1:1 one;)

Regards

Cybermac

N96HBK
03-11-2016, 07:31 AM
Very nice!!!! Is this a free model? Or is it for sale?

Cybermac
03-11-2016, 07:48 AM
Hi,

This model will be for sale as my current situation isn't great.
I can only apologise it takes so long, but little toddler at home doesn't give me much time;).

regards

Cybermac

N96HBK
03-11-2016, 07:57 AM
I'll be happy to be a customer. ;)

Cybermac
03-11-2016, 11:14 AM
Hello,

N96HBK - thank you, I am happy to hear that:)

Not sure yet, but I think I will make a 'white version' available for couple of designers/repainters so we can see some other B-737 re-colours available too.

I am thinking about one 'silver one' but let's keep it as a little surprise.

Kind regards

Cybermac

WAGliderGuy
03-11-2016, 04:28 PM
I'm looking forward to purchasing this model! You did a great job capturing the shape of the 737 nose.

willygoat
03-11-2016, 07:10 PM
I'm in for one!

herky
03-11-2016, 07:38 PM
Hi,

This model will be for sale as my current situation isn't great.
I can only apologise it takes so long, but little toddler at home doesn't give me much time;).

regards

Cybermac

will be in to purchase one:)

N96HBK
03-11-2016, 07:44 PM
I'd love to get a few 737s done. I have a few liveries in plan. :)

sgoti
03-11-2016, 08:01 PM
Hello my friend!

Came across the Sabina paint scheme files when I was trying to help a few years ago (wow- time flies!)

Gled to see you are still working on this, I too am impressed with the contours of the nose (well, the whole thing, actually!)

White version, count me in as well (as long as the budget affords it).

Take care.

Cybermac
03-13-2016, 01:23 AM
Gentlemen,

It is great to see you are interested and it gives me more energy to work.
I will be more than happy to see every repaint of B-737 model!:)

Sgoti - I still have your drawings, you helped me with MALEV titles - BIG thanks!
SABENA is yours:)

Even if I am planning to do MALEV, LOT (and possibly 2-3 more) the list of painting schemes of 'baby Boeing' is almost endless...

Just by the way, I am keen aviation spotter and since 1999 I managed to catch some 100+ 737's with different paintings from Europe, America, Asia...
(I will put a link to some of them in forum's photo section).

Kind regards

Cybermac

herky
03-13-2016, 01:25 AM
Gentlemen,

It is great to see you are interested, I will be more than happy to see every repaint of B-737 model:)

Sgoti - I still have your drawings, you helped me with MALEV titles - BIG thanks!
SABENA is yours:)

Even if I am planning to do MALEV, LOT (and possibly 2-3 more) the list of painting schemes of 'baby Boeing' is almost endless...

Just by the way, I am keen aviation spotter and since 1999 I managed to catch some 100+ 737's with different paintings from Europe, America, Asia... (I will put a link to some of them in another section).

Kind regards

Cybermac
we have the out here with air new zealand and its domestic predecessor NAC.

croden
03-13-2016, 08:29 AM
Hello,

N96HBK - thank you, I am happy to hear that:)

Not sure yet, but I think I will make a 'white version' available for couple of designers/repainters so we can see some other B-737 re-colours available too.

I am thinking about one 'silver one' but let's keep it as a little surprise.

Kind regards

Cybermac
I would gladly volunteer for recoloring!

Cybermac
03-14-2016, 04:24 AM
Hello,

Croden - that will be great to see more re-colours!:)

Herky - I am sure there was one 737 with Air New Zealand colours some years ago chartered in Europe, but I haven't seen it myself.

kind regards

Cybermac

croden
03-14-2016, 08:47 AM
Just one question Cybermac, what version will this model be?

herky
03-14-2016, 01:48 PM
Hello,

Croden - that will be great to see more re-colours!:)

Herky - I am sure there was one 737 with Air New Zealand colours some years ago chartered in Europe, but I haven't seen it myself.

kind regards

Cybermac

i have a few basic models of 737 in air new zealand schemes but nothing on the scale of the ones you are doing

Cybermac
03-14-2016, 05:05 PM
Hello,

I am working on B-737-300, but later on I will extend and shorten the mid-section so we can have '400' and '500'.

Future plan is a 'step back' to '200'.

kind regards

Cybermac

N96HBK
03-14-2016, 11:47 PM
Hello,

I am working on B-737-300, but later on I will extend and shorten the mid-section so we can have '400' and '500'.

Future plan is a 'step back' to '200'.

kind regards

Cybermac

I'd love to repaint all of them!!! British Airways operated all of those 737s listed.

bob neill
03-15-2016, 08:12 AM
Th a former life, I spent a good amount of time on interiors of the Baby Bird (737-200). It would be nice to find a model of the convertible version, no not the Hawaiian aircraft. If wishes were fishes...the gravel runway version with aft air-stair would be special.

Also, I have been looking for a model of its cousin the 727.

Bob Neill

Cybermac
03-15-2016, 09:36 AM
Hello,

N96HBK - is it going to be a contemporary BA painting scheme or Landor?

Bob Neill - '200' with gravel kit sounds great to me; first I must do '300' as a basis for all of them versions.

kind regards

Cybermac

N96HBK
03-15-2016, 04:45 PM
Hello,

N96HBK - is it going to be a contemporary BA painting scheme or Landor?

Bob Neill - '200' with gravel kit sounds great to me; first I must do '300' as a basis for all of them versions.

kind regards

Cybermac
I think I'll do both. :)

herky
03-15-2016, 11:16 PM
here the air new zealand colours:)

Cybermac
03-16-2016, 03:51 AM
Hello,

Herky - would you like to try to do the Air New Zaeland repaint?

N96HBK - you must be reading my mind;)
British Airways repaint was just behind MALEV and LOT and 'silver one' on my list, but I am more than happy you will do them re-colours.
I am very keen to see your Landor - the classic one!:)

Please just let me to do something with 'Worlds tails' at some point - I am a BIG fan of this one...
G-DOCF 'Koguty Lowickie'[/HTML]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:34aw_-_British_Airways_Boeing_737-400;_G-DOCF@ZRH;07.08.1998_(8130447470).jpg

kind regards

Cybermac

N96HBK
03-16-2016, 04:04 AM
Ah, ethnic tails? ;)
I like the "Colum" and "Mountains and the birds". I am willing to do them. And one special "poppy" livery to be released at Remembrance day.
Will the model be in vector format or bitmap? If it's bitmap I could get it vectored for you. I'm not a pro, but I can do it. :)

herky
03-16-2016, 10:48 PM
Hello,

Herky - would you like to try to do the Air New Zaeland repaint?

N96HBK - you must be reading my mind;)
British Airways repaint was just behind MALEV and LOT and 'silver one' on my list, but I am more than happy you will do them re-colours.
I am very keen to see your Landor - the classic one!:)

Please just let me to do something with 'Worlds tails' at some point - I am a BIG fan of this one...
G-DOCF 'Koguty Lowickie'[/HTML]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:34aw_-_British_Airways_Boeing_737-400;_G-DOCF@ZRH;07.08.1998_(8130447470).jpg

kind regards

Cybermac
i am just a builder.sorry i have no skills at recolouring or designing or i would gladly help.can provide heaps of photos thats about all:)

Cybermac
03-17-2016, 02:47 PM
Hello,

I think I found some kind of BA 'World (Ethnic) Tails' here...
Lockon Aviation Photography - Fleets (http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/fleets.php?fli_shortname=ba)

Herky - maybe we can find a volunteer for Air New Zealand re-colour here?

kind regards

Cybermac

N96HBK
03-17-2016, 04:33 PM
Oooh, thanks for the photos!!! Those will be very useful. :)

herky
03-17-2016, 06:21 PM
Hello,

I think I found some kind of BA 'World (Ethnic) Tails' here...
Lockon Aviation Photography - Fleets (http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/fleets.php?fli_shortname=ba)

Herky - maybe we can find a volunteer for Air New Zealand re-colour here?

kind regards

Cybermac

i can only hope:)

Cybermac
07-15-2016, 03:37 AM
Hello!

I have done the cabin section, but I am still not 100% happy.
I think I will divide this section in two and redo the upper part, so the whole thing fits and sits just like it should.

Please see the photo below

kind regards

Cybermac

P.S. I have just recently seen seen P-8 Poseidon on RIAT, so further '737 - Poseidon' development is also on my radar;-)

N96HBK
07-15-2016, 03:59 AM
Great to see updates!! ;)

sgoti
07-15-2016, 12:24 PM
Hello!

I have done the cabin section, but I am still not 100% happy.
I think I will divide this section in two and redo the upper part, so the whole thing fits and sits just like it should.

Please see the photo below

kind regards

Cybermac

P.S. I have just recently seen seen P-8 Poseidon on RIAT, so further '737 - Poseidon' development is also on my radar;-)

Just noticed your model is labeled as a "737-3000". I love to see what THAT would look like... :eek::)

Cybermac
07-17-2016, 07:01 AM
Good eye for details - Sgoti, I can only wish we could have that '0' added at the bottom line of our bank accounts;)

Anyway, the production of 737 reached another milestone recently - '9000' examples.
The Afritraveller | Trendy Aviation News (http://www.afritraveller.com/#!Boeing-Delivers-The-9000th-Boeing-737/ag7cq/571d49510cf232b075ccffc6)

I just wonder if we could put them all together into one line one after another how long that would be...?:cool:

N96HBK
07-17-2016, 08:09 AM
Congrats, Boeing!!! ;)
I hope the 737 will still be in service when I'm old....

sgoti
07-17-2016, 08:44 AM
Good eye for details - Sgoti, I can only wish we could have that '0' added at the bottom line of our bank accounts;)

We can! Unfortunately, it's always to the right of the decimal point...

Cybermac
10-31-2016, 04:25 PM
Hello gents!

I haven't been here for a long time - but I haven't given up on my B-737.

One of my close family members passed away and I had some other 'family/work things' to sort out which took me the most part of the year.

Anyway, whenever the baby is asleep or I am having a brake at work, I am trying do something with 737.

For now, I managed to get the front left door done.
For the first time I used only photos to get the details(!) as advised by Sumato some long time ago - thanks for that dear friend!

Well, the door it is not straight as it seems;)
Please see the photo of the real door of P-8 Poseidon and the drawing.;)

kind regards

Cybermac

herky
10-31-2016, 04:38 PM
Hello gents!

I haven't been here for a long time - but I haven't given up on my B-737.

One of my close family members passed away and I had some other 'family/work things' to sort out which took me the most part of the year.

Anyway, whenever the baby is asleep or I am having a brake at work, I am trying do something with 737.

For now, I managed to get the front left door done.
For the first time I used only photos to get the details(!) as advised by Sumato some long time ago - thanks for that dear friend!

Well, the door it is not straight as it seems;)
Please see the photo of the real door of P-8 Poseidon and the drawing.;)

kind regards

Cybermac

sorry to hear your bad news.great to see you back and carrying on with this project

Jesus
11-01-2016, 05:01 AM
Hi Cyber,

Also sorry for the bad news.

You can also use the real photos for some details that look very nice.

For instance, this is the new cockpit for the Murph´s 737-200 (which is an excellent model). I have done some versions.

Cybermac
11-17-2016, 07:20 AM
Hello gents!

Thank you for the words of support.

Jesus - for now I have to leave this idea as I am not good with Corel and already have got many things I need to learn from scratch, but will remember that for a future.

Current work - doors on the other side

best regards

bob neill
11-17-2016, 12:52 PM
While working on the kitchen and lower deck doors, remember that the kitchen doors are smaller than the passenger doors and not in alignment. Memories are fading, the aft kitchen door may have been opposite the aft passenger door.

Bob Neill

Cybermac
11-17-2016, 02:52 PM
Hello!

Bob - that is 100% correct, they are smaller and closer to the front, so I can't just copy and paste them:-)

Jesus
11-17-2016, 02:58 PM
Here it is.

bob neill
11-17-2016, 09:57 PM
Thank you for the body profile.

Bob Neill

Cybermac
01-29-2017, 05:13 PM
Hello!

It has been a bit of time since my last post - but B-737 is not forgotten:)

Having a bit of time I battled on with the door contour.
Please see the drawing.

By the way I have recently started a bit less complicated project '15 minutes lunch break project'. For now I can only say that it's an american fighter, double seater;)

Kind regards

herky
01-29-2017, 07:39 PM
nice to see you are back into it.

Cybermac
01-31-2017, 05:49 PM
Thank you Herky!

And here are 'The doors' for a rider of the storm;)

kind regards

Cybermac
02-05-2017, 08:44 AM
Hello!

And here is my new B-737 'front door' segment:-)

I would never say that 'the doors' design is so much time consuming.
Also the segments are getting so big that they must be come in two halves to fit onto A4 format.
Anyway, there is always something new I am learning;)

Next one is going to be the segment with MALEV's logo and windows.

(Obviously the front/cabin part will be re-designed at some point.)

kind regards

Cybermac

scon10
02-05-2017, 02:27 PM
The nose looks very convincing. If I may offer a little suggestion, could you make the transition from the windshield to the cockpit roof more rounded, so that it's less sharp? That would improve the looks very much, I think.
I look forward to the final model. Good work!

WAGliderGuy
02-05-2017, 04:37 PM
Nice work! +1 on the top windshield -> cockpit roof transition I think it would make this already great 737 nose look even more scale.

Cybermac
02-11-2017, 05:30 PM
Hello!

That is 100% right, I will re-edit the cabin and the roof transition.
They still reflect the 1/72 model and for 1/36 (1/33) the cabin is going to be split on two parts. I couldn't do it before but now I have more experience with 3D/2D program I am using and I have got some better scale drawings of B-737/727 nose:-)

Just by the way in the other project which I am doing simultaneously, the cabin is going to be made from 8-10 parts joined into one:-)
It is not as easy as I thought but also gives me some experience and some different 'flavour' than B-737;-)

herky
02-11-2017, 08:00 PM
Hello!

That is 100% right, I will re-edit the cabin and the roof transition.
They still reflect the 1/72 model and for 1/36 (1/33) the cabin is going to be split on two parts. I couldn't do it before but now I have more experience with 3D/2D program I am using and I have got some better scale drawings of B-737/727 nose:-)

Just by the way in the other project which I am doing simultaneously, the cabin is going to be made from 8-10 parts joined into one:-)
It is not as easy as I thought but also gives me some experience and some different 'flavour' than B-737;-)

am i reading this right.you intend to make this as a 1;33.i gotta get one of those:)

Cybermac
02-16-2017, 04:42 PM
Hi Herky,

I am glad you are interested in B-737 1/33 model:)

I have just prepared two parts of F-G segment with set of windows, cargo hatch and logo letters - MA and LEV (depending on side).

If the time and family allows I am hoping to get them printed and glued together this coming weekend. :rolleyes:

kind regards

Cybermac

herky
02-16-2017, 05:51 PM
Hi Herky,

I am glad you are interested in B-737 1/33 model:)

I have just prepared two parts of F-G segment with set of windows, cargo hatch and logo letters - MA and LEV (depending on side).

If the time and family allows I am hoping to get them printed and glued together this coming weekend. :rolleyes:

kind regards

Cybermac

now this im really looking forward to.our next break from work is not until june so no rush:)

Cybermac
02-26-2017, 03:43 PM
Hello!

Slightly off schedule but here it is - the next segment.:cool:

The biggest diameter (G-G) is 11.1cm and the height of the whole ting is about a size of a bottle of a good beer;)

Cheers everybody!;)

joshuajaeseo
02-26-2017, 03:45 PM
Looks great! Will it be released once done?

Cybermac
02-26-2017, 03:50 PM
I think this is going to be pdf file for on-line download, A4 paper size so easy to print for everybody.

joshuajaeseo
02-26-2017, 03:52 PM
Any idea when it might be done?

herky
02-26-2017, 03:59 PM
I think this is going to be pdf file for on-line download, A4 paper size so easy to print for everybody.

sounds like best idea.its looking good

Knife
02-26-2017, 04:04 PM
Looking very good. This has been a multi year project. Good things come to those who wait. I'm glad to see it's back on the front burner.

Cybermac
02-26-2017, 04:05 PM
It is hard to say because of my family commitments and long working hours, but I can say I am using most of my free time for this (and a bit on 2nd project) including my lunch breaks. I really want to finish B-737 ASAP.

'Good things come to those who wait' - that is really well said Knife, thank you.

Cybermac
03-05-2017, 04:16 PM
Hello,

Just as a little heads-up, I found some better scale drawings of B-737.
The drawings which I used for the nose/front section were from B-727 so there is nothing wrong with them parts except of the update I mentioned recently.
The rear fuselage section is going to get the update (cross sections) so it will be much closer to the original.
Time is going show if the wings and engine if the wings and engines need the same treatment.

All together it should give a better final result and easier switch onto 200/700 versions:-)

sgoti
03-05-2017, 06:38 PM
Hello,

Just as a little heads-up, I found some better scale drawings of B-737.
The drawings which I used for the nose/front section were from B-727 so there is nothing wrong with them parts except of the update I mentioned recently.
The rear fuselage section is going to get the update (cross sections) so it will be much closer to the original.
Time is going show if the wings and engine if the wings and engines need the same treatment.

All together it should give a better final result and easier switch onto 200/700 versions:-)

Can't wait to see it, keep up the good work!

joshuajaeseo
03-05-2017, 06:48 PM
Looking forward to it!