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Old 06-24-2008, 08:54 PM
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Haha ... your diving right in...

Too bad your cheating on the tracks. j/k =P

Love to see how this unique piece of equipment turns out. Will stay tuned.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:40 PM
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I did a lot of soul searching about the lasercut tracks and concluded that I wasn't ever going to get a cut out Pz IV track to look right. The Pz IV track elements are quite delicate looking (see image) and beyond my capability to cut out. The supplied Modelik track is reasonable but not as right as I'd like.

It might be fun to do a munitiontrager (ammunition carrier) version of the Hummel with hand cut tracks - but that would be a future project. About 15% of all Hummels were built as ammunition carriers - they were fairly similar to the gun version except that gun was removed, a steel sheet covered the gun aperture and there was a large box installed to carry the projectiles. The mumitiontragers could be converted into a Hummel in the field.

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Old 06-24-2008, 10:31 PM
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Sure would be interested in Hummel interior photos - I've got the ones from the old AFV Interiors site.
Charlie

You and I do think alike the photos I have are from the long gone AFV interior site. I have the complete HTML files if you are missing any I’ll send them to you.

Using laser cut track links is not cheating! I have made my share of track links including 3 dozen from the Halinski T34 (about 24 parts per link) and I’m using laser cut links period. Life is not long enough to make your own links.

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Old 06-29-2008, 10:03 PM
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Some progress....

The hull skinning is on, the details on the hull bottom are finished.

The fit was reasonable although I don't like the huge sides plus bottom part. I prefer doing these as separate pieces so any slight errors can be fixed - the big part only gives you one shot at getting it right.

I wasn't sure about the base colour of the hull on the model sheets but it looks a lot better when its built. The dark green and red-brown overspraying looks very convincing (imho). The instruction diagrams are fairly cryptic - perhaps the text would help but it's in Polish.

I think I'll build the running gear next.

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Charlie
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:40 AM
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:59 AM
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Very fine craftsmanship. This one is going to be a beauty.

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Old 06-30-2008, 05:19 AM
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It's a very good job, one of the "Geschutz" I would like to build.

A small curiosity:
Hummel = Hornet (Italian = calabrone); seem to Adolf Hitler in person on November 27, 1944 had ordered to abolish this name because too little martial!

Orazio
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:44 AM
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It's a very good job, one of the "Geschutz" I would like to build.

A small curiosity:
Hummel = Hornet (Italian = calabrone); seem to Adolf Hitler in person on November 27, 1944 had ordered to abolish this name because too little martial!

Orazio
I think you're confusing the SdKfz 165 Hummel with the SdKfz 164 Hornisse/Nashorn.

"Hummel" is the German word for "Bumblebee" ["Bombo"] - the Wehrmacht names for SPGs were usually insect names, e.g. SdKfz 124 Wespe (Wasp) ["Vespa"]. Hitler reportedly objected to the Hummel name but it was never changed. The Hornisse (Hornet) ["Calabrone"] was renamed the Nashorn (Rhinoceros) ["Rinoceronte"].

Italian translations from Babelfish in square brackets.

Couple of Modelik gotchas I should have noted before - the front of the part with the drivers hatch is about 2mm wider than the frame - I used joining strips with the angled side pieces and didn't cut it down to fit the frame.

The rails on the hull bottom are horrible to build as designed - basically a long skinny box with small flaps to attach to the hull. I cut a piece of 1mm card to form a base for the rails glued the sides to the new base then attached the assembly to the hull.

Speaking of Hornisse's - it's always struck me odd that Modelik released a Hummel and missed the Hornisse - it's fairly similar except for the 88mm L71 gun.

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Old 06-30-2008, 08:43 AM
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I think you're confusing the SdKfz 165 Hummel with the SdKfz 164 Hornisse/Nashorn.
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Charlie
Maybe ......
but I simply carry over the source of my resource.
An Italian magazine specializing in the field, see pics:

-In blue box says: Geschutzwagen III / IV SdKfz 165 Hummel (calabrone ), etc........

-In red box says: About the name Hummel, reports that Adolf Hitler himself, November 27, 1944, had given orders to abolish it ..... etc. etc.

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Old 06-30-2008, 05:07 PM
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This is descending to a "my source is better than your source" argument.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/hummel.htm
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/...led/hummel.asp
Nuts and Bolts Vol. 10 - Hummel

Perhaps I should refer to the Hummel by its formal name...

15cm Schwere Panzerhaubitze auf Geschutzwagen III/IV (Sf)

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Charlie

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