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Old 02-25-2021, 07:57 AM
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You can adjust the side to side height by curving the springs more.

I also notice that the rear transverse spring is slightly beyond the rear cross member.
Curving the axle springs a bit more will bring it forward so it aligns better with the cross member.

A difficult thing to do at this point, I know...but once the transverse spring is glued into place, it helps the axle springs keep their shape and position.

Once you get the springs into the proper arch, I recommend soaking them in glue (CA, PVA, whatever)
to stiffen and strengthen them.
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Good stuff Dave
I decided to do the power plant next.
Everything went together fine.
cheers Jim
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Finally finished the drive-line.
All parts fit well.
cheers Jim
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Looking really great Jim!
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It has been quite a while since I have been able to make any progress on this truck.
The front office is mostly done. Everything fits well.
There is a mystery here. There is no gear shift lever, there are 2 large pedals and a gas
pedal. Normally these large pedals would be clutch and brake but the brakes are the levers.
They look just like on a Concord coach. Not much change there!
Anyway since the top speed is given as 12 MPH I wonder if the extra pedal just selects
forward and reverse and there is only one forward speed.
Does anyone know?
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Old 08-02-2021, 09:37 PM
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Throttle should be on the steering wheel (it is on the original Autocar Truck).
But maybe that small pedal in the floor replaces the throttle (on the Armoured Car)?
The original steering wheel in the AC does not appear to have the throttle lever.

The Transmission Shift lever is to the right of the frame.
...its the same type of Brake lever used on this and many other trucks of the period with a grip to release handle.
The outer lever is the mechanical(cable) Parking Brake. (pull back to engage, all the way forward to release)

Transmission in the original Autocar Truck is a 3spd (forward) plus reverse gear.
Sliding gear...sequential.
Back for reverse, neutral in the middle, and 3 clicks forward for driving gears.

Pedals are: Brake (to the right) and Clutch (to the left/inboard).

Top speed, depends on who you talk to...Jay Leno says his 1916 Coal Truck does 22mph.
According to Autocar (1916), the 1400rpm rev-limited engine delivers 18HP and a speed of 18-20mph.

Massive torque and suspension allows it to pull a lot of weight.
Chassis is called 2-Ton, however it appears it can easily carry 2.5 tons.
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Old 08-03-2021, 02:19 PM
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Aha I thought the levers were both brakes, left and right as on a tractor.
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They are both the type of cast iron Brake lever (with locking handle) used on so many vehicles of this type.
And I always referred to them as "brake levers" so as not to confuse you or me! lol

At first I didn't know what anything was on this vehicle, but as I collected original (Autocar) literature
and found a few online videos, I learned just how to start and drive one of these.
Jay Leno's car collection is immense, and his videos are extremely informative.
He owns...and drives regularly...a 1916 Coal Truck that is the 2 Ton Autocar.

That small pedal (under the Brake Pedal) is still a mystery to me...
I'm guessing its the throttle replcement.
Maybe one of the earliest vehicles with a floor "gas pedal"?!

I have a friend in England who owns and drives the British Army Lorry (which I sell a paper model of)
I wonder if his has the floor "gas pedal"?...I'll send him an email.

...
update...okay, the original Autocar DOES have that floor pedal, as does my friend's Army Lorry.
(see the attached photos for proof)
And the Armoured Car (in Ottawa) does have the steering wheel mounted throttle lever (although its a bit bent!).
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(I guess it was too small a detail to include on the model? I'm not sure)

So...that small floor pedal is still a mystery.
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I neglectfully have lost the contact info for my pal in England who restored the Autocar Army Lorry.
(another case of lot harddrives, and lost files)

Anyway I will keep looking for his name and email.

In the meantime, I sent comedian Jay Leno an email.
I'm sure he'll clue me him!

Please...don't let me interrupt any further...back to your build!
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Thanks Dave,
The curse of designing models is that the real thing is always in flux.
Drivers give opinions, engineers come up with new stuff and the customer always changes his mind.
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