Tatebanko or not ?

[Pat_craft]

If you are interrested in tatebanko, you probably saw this one (and some other similar) on the internet.


My question is : is that form of tatebanko, "in a "box", existed in the past or not ? All the real and ancient tatebankos I have seen are not in a box. So is it only a modern way to create tatebanko or is it partly historic.

I know that this kind of diorama "in a box" existed in Europe during the last century (for exemple this Epinal'picture, 1905, "L'attaque de la diligence")

But I am not sure that something similar existed in Japan.

Someone have an idea about that ?

[B-Manic]

I consider them to be tatebanko inspired dioramas at best. They are a fusion of traditional Japanese prints and shadow box dioramas not tatebanko in my opinion.

~ Douglas

BTW I really like what you are doing with your tatebanko creations and re-creations.

[Yu Gyokubun]

In Japanese “tatebanko” consists of two words.
tate =set up
banko= color print
So, I suppose all kind of dioramas which has set up color prints could be presumed as tatebanko.
It seems now existing tatebankos are not in a shadow box but it doesn’t always mean that no one built tatebanko in a shadow box in the past though we can’t prove it since many of tatebankos created in the past has been discarded because of difficulty keeping such bulky stuff in a Japanese rabbit house.

[papermodelfan]

I am pretty share that these are just modern adaptation of old prints. All the tatebanko that I have seen are "open air" dioramas, that have a big platform base. For the ones that represented Kabuki performances there were sometimes Proscenium arches with curtains, and representations of the small orchestra playing in the wings. Not to say that someone might not enclose them in a box, but the representations of them, like the marvelous print discussed a few months ago, show them out in the open.

They were certainly fragile, and the results disposable, but one of the reasons that they are so rare now is that some large private collections of them were lost in the fire bombings of WW2. One fellow that Tony Cole of Tokyo knows has spent the last 65 years rebuilding a huge collection lost that way, and says that his current collection does not compare to what was lost.

Cheers,

[Pat_craft]

Thank you for your precious responses

[Pat_craft]

Finaly, the response is a bit more complexe...
I found this tatebanko in a book (in a japanese libary in Paris). It was created in 1925 and it seems to have a shadow box (a nice shadow box with blue squares...).
I take 2 pictures of it with my camera that I assembled on my computer (not a nice way to do that, a scan will be better...).

And I can't resist to build it. I think I will do the box, even if the elements are not one the tatebanko (I will create them).

I will show you when it will be finish.

[altomentis]

I think that the box or frame is just a way to reinforce the construction. When I think of tatebanko, I think of using a painting or a print to create a layered representation of that print with or without a box or frame. Generally anything else I think of as a scene, vignette, or diorama, also with or without a frame. Agence Eureka has many scenes and dioramas in her Flickr papercraft set.

[Pat_craft]

I have finished this last tatebanko, in a shadow box.

[Don Boose]

Great work, Pat! I always enjoy seeing your Tatebanko. This one looks very good, tatebanko or not.

Don

[Pat_craft]

Thanks for your comment Don