MiG-21UM, 1/200 - Page 5

**YOAVHOZMI** · #41 10-29-2015, 05:40 AM

very beautiful migs collection...well done

YOAV

**cafe** · #42 10-29-2015, 06:15 AM

Thanks, Yoav!

**bkensky** · #43 10-29-2015, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cafe

I know that pic!

From the spine the single-seaters seem to be 3rd gen, plus Slovakia only operated 3rd gen Fishbeds. They didn't have any Bis. The MF was the most numerous variant.

21 stored MiG-21F-13 (or S-106) were transfered to Slovakia as well as 3 stored PF. The 11 PFM allocated to Slovakia had been retired a few years before the partition (that occured on 1.1.1993).

The Slovak Air Force received 8 MiG-21R, 13 MiG-21M (upgraded to MA), 36 MiG-21MF, 3 MiG-21U (of the Izdeliye 66-600 variant with the big vertical stabilisator), 2 US and 11 UM.

Regarding tnat pic, the 4 at the top (7702, 7703, 7710, 7712) are MF as is 4312 at the bottom. The second one in that line (2615) is a MiG-21MA as is the next one (120x). The 2 two-seaters at the top (3051 & 5101) are MiG-21UM. The last 3 before them are 2 MF (7704 and 4313) and one R (1920).

The M was the export version of the S used by the soviet air force but with an older radar and a built-in cannon. The MA was an M re-engined with the R13-300 turbojet. If the RP-21MA radar was replaced with the RP-22 from the S and the MF, they were then redesignated as MiG-21MF, the main difference with a true MF being the slightly different shape of the airbrakes.

Thanks for the info Carlos. You have so much info on MiG 21 that astonishes me

After I collect all the prototypes, variants and derivatives, I am going for this diorama

**cafe** · #44 10-29-2015, 08:56 AM

All the info is from the MiG-21 bible by Yefim Gordon, Keith Dexter and Dimitri Komissarov. The book has lists of (known) serials in the operators section.

(No I didn't pay that price when I bought it new a few years ago, same for the MiG-29 book)

**cafe** · #45 10-29-2015, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bkensky

Dear Carlos,
Thanks for the Ojmk MiG. Not better than yours. I won't be making it.

I think Ojimak's is a nice model and builds really well. The vertical stabilisator might be a bit oversized but it's not flagrant. I really like it. Plus it's a flying model (at the original size).

-edit- About the pic : there's a third UM (0368) in the middle of that big line and just under it an MF coded 4311. I can see at least 6 more MFs with codes starting with 43 or 44 and 3 more MAs with codes starting with 11 or 12. The camouflaged fuselage with a faded white/blue/red lightning bolt is probably 8208 (MF). Just below that one there's a fuselage with a 3-tone grey/black camo that could be 7713 (MF) provided it was the only one painted in that scheme.

**Texman** · #46 10-29-2015, 06:27 PM

Also, in the middle of them, is a UM, 0365?

**bkensky** · #47 10-29-2015, 10:13 PM

The book by Yefim Gordon is truly magnificent. I guess the price tag is viable for the info about the LEGENDARY JET FIGHTER. Thank you Carlos and Ray for the pointers identifying the serials and versions. I have imagined to replicate this diorama since a long time. Hope to get there soon. I would setup the diorama and would love to share here.

Carlos, can you help me to improve my SMT version? I have redesigned it and need some pointers before I start building it.

**cafe** · #48 10-30-2015, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Texman

Also, in the middle of them, is a UM, 0365?

Yefim Gordon only lists one serial starting with 03 so I think it's 0368.

I've been zooming on this wallpaper.

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Originally Posted by bkensky

Carlos, can you help me to improve my SMT version? I have redesigned it and need some pointers before I start building it.

Is it still the same version you sent me or did you make further changes?

**bkensky** · #49 10-30-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cafe

Yefim Gordon only lists one serial starting with 03 so I think it's 0368.

I've been zooming on this wallpaper.

Is it still the same version you sent me or did you make further changes?

I have made adjustments and have sent you the template. Ignore the PF model there coz its not complete.

BTW, here is another angle view of the graveyard.

**cafe** · #50 10-30-2015, 03:35 PM

Thanks. Got them.

You may want to get the blank PF/PFS/PFM edits of Rawen & Paran's MiG-21. The pdf file has a pair of R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) for the Bis and a GP-9 cannon pod for the PF/FL/PFS/PFM/S.

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Or get this : all the weapons I made for the MiG-21 in 1:200. The APU-60-2 + 2 R-60 are beta material and may get entirely remade.