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Old 11-11-2017, 06:39 PM
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But as I said to his Grandson...these men are all heroes and deserved to be remembered regardless of the details!
Well said Sir, with your research and design skills we can be sure the result will be a fine homage to the who flew this type and others in many hazardous situations.
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:08 PM
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Utterly fascinating. Thank you for letting us see the lengths you go to to pair up pilot and aircraft Dave. You're doing a fine work!
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:15 PM
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This is the kind of discussions I love in this forum.
We learn a lot from threads like this.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:22 AM
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I fully agree with Rebenandres77. I hope there is more to the story. Or as the late Paul Harvey would say, "the rest of the story"!
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:57 AM
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Just refreshing this thread if I can. I am looking at building a 1/5 scale model of the P-47 and would like to do Fickle Flossy. I am struggling to get any details on the airframe such as serial number on the fin and letters on the fuselage.

If anyone has any further details to add to this thread I would be very grateful indeed.

Thank you in advance
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Old 01-17-2022, 03:52 PM
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wow, my memory is so bad now...I didn't remember any of this conversation
and yet I was obviously heavily involved.

I thought I had done a model of Flossie, but apparently not.

I know I had a reference file on the plane, but I can't seem to find that either.

I'll see if I can dig up the aircraft info.
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Old 01-17-2022, 04:46 PM
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Well, I can see why I haven't done a model of this plane yet...
there is just no clear info out there.

We are assuming Fickle Flossy III was part of 391st FS (366th FG)
and yet, theres no mention of her on the 366th website.
They have a section of nose art, and you'd think it would be there, since there are these well known photos.

The other problem is of course verifying the pilot...who we are guessing is James Fogle.

Best I have found so far is a photo of Fickle Flossy (the first?)
which is claimed to be: P-47D-22-RE Thunderbolt (42-26340).
The aircraft is clearly an earlier razorback.

The serial does confirm the P47 version
but does not confirm anything else, there is no information on that aircraft.
And I don't have info on the pilot either.


Fickle Flossy III is obviously the third P47 to be named Fickle Flossy.
That was a common practice.
But it isn't necessarily the same pilot flying her.
Planes are passed along to other pilots who may or may not change the artwork.
Other pilots could have appropriated the name and nose art.

So, I'm back to square one.

We know the plane existed...we have a photo...but I can't verify the serial, or ident, or Pilot, or even the actual Fighter Squadron of Flossy III.

...

Here is the razorback named Fickle Flossy of the 366th in Europe? !!
see the attachment
I believe this is the earliest version of Fickle Flossy, before the 366th moved operations to the Pacific theatre.
This complicates things even more.
*I've yet to find a photo of a Fickle Flossy 2.
(The silver aircraft named Fickle Flossy III is definitely of the Pacific theatre)
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Old 01-17-2022, 05:15 PM
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OOOH so close!!! see attached image!

what a nice clear photo, and yet, the pilot has hidden the necessary information!!
"Can you move your knee sir?!"

but I can confirm, that this Fickle Flossy I is not P-47D-22-RE Thunderbolt (42-26340)
(as was indicated on another website)

We can clearly see that this razorback P-47 is a P47D-15-RA
which tells us the serial number is 42-3143 to 42-3299.
(thats 156 aircraft to choose from)

I know, this doesn't help confirm anything about Fickle Flossy III,
but we are getting closer!
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That nose art is very professionally done.
Seems unusual for a working squadron.

(I'm sure it got a lot of smiles...)
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:25 AM
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That nose art is very professionally done.
Seems unusual for a working squadron.

(I'm sure it got a lot of smiles...)
P-Lite

its legit.
if you search out other artworks of the 366th, you'll see the quality.
they just lucked into a really good painter.

pinup artists had to enlist like everyone else.





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