Wilhelmshaven Coleoptere

**Keds_Girl_Lala** · #1 05-23-2009, 12:59 PM

This is a strange French flying thing. Aparently it did not fly very well. The instruction say it crash on its first flight!

It is another Wilhelmshavener download model for 3 Euros. You get parts on two page plus excellent instruction! The instruction, it is all in English (or German) with writing only and no diagram, but it is VERY clear. For example, when you make the sectiont parts for the body, it instruct you to carefully glue the tab edge in place and then when you make the double think former parts, they slide inside the body tube section until they fit against the tab edge inside. Some section, it has a wrapping in the middle so it will trap the former parts both in the front and back and fix them in place perfectly in alignment!

So here is the pieces and picture of the Coleoptere machine...

There is a blemish one one part but I may fix with grey pencil or crayon?

The sections started

And with the former template install inside.

And put together. Some former parts, they are perhaps too large and I have too tight of a fit, resulting in segmentation. It is hard to judge becuase you have to glue the form in place before you can test fit the next section. It is deceptive, so far this has perhaps 20 parts with the tabs, forms, sections, etc.

**ccoyle** · #2 05-23-2009, 01:23 PM

You're off to a fast start. Is it my imagination, or does that one part have the word 'front' transliterated into Cyrillic?

Cheers!

**Keds_Girl_Lala** · #3 05-23-2009, 01:47 PM

Thank you. I work on this over two afternoon time. I make some note in ink with the former template parts. I take the paper part and glue to wood from a food package. But then it is thick, so I angle the wood with a bevel. I must then say okay this side it is the front so the angle it is correct when I put the segment of the body together. It is hard to explain.

**cdwheatley** · #4 05-23-2009, 02:24 PM

Explained and understood perfectly

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**Wilfried** · #5 05-23-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ccoyle

You're off to a fast start. Is it my imagination, or does that one part have the word 'front' transliterated into Cyrillic?

Cheers!

... oh, I'm not the only one, who had late afternoon the same imagination ...

With lovely greetings
the Wilfried

PS: @ Lala,
normally the real printed models of that time fits very well - it was a brandmark of Wilhelmshavener - but nowadays, in time of downloading, some things differed ...

**Keds_Girl_Lala** · #6 05-23-2009, 03:06 PM

Things from Wilhelmshavener they do fit well. I think my mistake in where I make my cut lines it is my fault. Actually, today I make anew every single segment, and glue all their tabs and linings in place for a second attempt. I can see the paper wrapping segments will fit perfectly but that when force the slightly large forms inside, then they do not fit. So, tomorrow or Monday, I will make a second Coleoptere body knowing now perhaps to make the forms just a mm smaller across.

The Messerschmitt, it was the same. The pieces they fit very well although my interpretation of some of the structure result in minor problem.

Interesting, for being old, it still fit better than the Marek LaGG which should fit better but do not.

**eatcrow2** · #7 05-23-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Keds_Girl_Lala

Things from Wilhelmshavener they do fit well. I think my mistake in where I make my cut lines it is my fault. Actually, today I make anew every single segment, and glue all their tabs and linings in place for a second attempt. I can see the paper wrapping segments will fit perfectly but that when force the slightly large forms inside, then they do not fit. So, tomorrow or Monday, I will make a second Coleoptere body knowing now perhaps to make the forms just a mm smaller across.

I like this one.. The stranger looking the better. I think you have the right idea on how your going to do the second attempt. What I do with forms like that, is coat the outside with CA/crazy glue then lightly sand it down to a shape where it fits without distorting..test fitting as you go. Also beveling the form so it adjusts to the angle of the piece. Also, on a solid form/bulkhead I usually cut a small hole in the center so it's easier to manipulate the piece.. Square/round, it doesn't matter.. Easier to do, then to write about..

**Wilfried** · #8 05-23-2009, 03:40 PM

Hello Lala,

your parts for glueing stands in one line; please reverse part 10 ...

With lovely greetings
the Wilfried

**Keds_Girl_Lala** · #9 05-23-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilfried

Hello Lala,

your parts for glueing stands in one line; please reverse part 10 ...

With lovely greetings
the Wilfried

Thank you actually it is part 4. the "10" is where you glue part 10 later. But you can fix those band parts just one way when you go to fix each segment together. I just arrange them for the picture mostly to show ok I cut them all out again! :p

**Keds_Girl_Lala** · #10 05-23-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eatcrow2

I like this one.. The stranger looking the better. I think you have the right idea on how your going to do the second attempt. What I do with forms like that, is coat the outside with CA/crazy glue then lightly sand it down to a shape where it fits without distorting..test fitting as you go. Also beveling the form so it adjusts to the angle of the piece. Also, on a solid form/bulkhead I usually cut a small hole in the center so it's easier to manipulate the piece.. Square/round, it doesn't matter.. Easier to do, then to write about..

Yes they say to fix the paper form to double it up to a second sheet. But I fix it to wood that is approx 1mm thick and very hard (it is from a large brie cheese box). If you see close in this picture again, they thoughtfully provide a tick mark to align with the seam on the bottom of the segment it fit inside of.

I bevel the wood and paper with a finger nail board. I had just made these a very tight fit. I could coerce each one inside but then when I stick the pipes together, there is much tension and pressure on the edges. It is not so much the model's fault as my construction method. So I say ok I can make the new parts in 15 minutes...

I very much like the inside of some of the wrapping bands becuase you put not only the tab on the edge to join the segments, but a band inside that will hold the wood form in place. And the instructions, they are very explicit.

I see nicely that despite the flaw in the printing (it is like there was a faint spot on the original that was scan for the down load) it is on the inside of the large body ring not the outside.

Ok I go to work now... so i will finish this perhaps Monday.