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View Poll Results: Which one of the two is a more radical design? | |||
F7U-3M Cutlass | 43 | 81.13% | |
F-4D Skyray | 10 | 18.87% | |
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll |
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F7U-3M vs F-4D - Cutlass vs Skyray
Dear All - the 50's jet fighter era is known to be the golden
jet era . Many trials were made and the outcome was that many unique jet fighters came into service. The Cutlass and Skyray both served the US navy and both are looking radical - one with twin tail design and the other with a bat wing. In the next chapters I will compare more thoroughly between them . The models are both in 1:48 scale . Yair |
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Beautiful models Hyair, and lovely comparison photos. The two are quite similar in certain aspects; no horizontal tail, center line thrust, and wing surface extending so far back.
As to which one was a more radical design? That's a tough question. On the one hand, the F-4D's fuselage and wing are very well blended. But the F7U-3M has those vertical tails that are attached to the wing. Outside of some of the early flying wing designs, I can't think of other aircraft configured like that. The F7U-3M looks like it would be more stable in flight, but the F-4D looks more aerodynamically efficient. But that's just my guess. Anyhow, I look forward to your discussion of these two unique aircraft. |
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Thanks for your very nice reply Yeti !
You are right that it is not so easy to distinguish between the two , but in the next chapters things will be clarify. Yair |
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From what I've read about them, if the Gutless had as good a power plant as the Skyray, it could have been a really first class fighter. I've built several stick and tissue models of both, and both made terrific slingshot gliders (never could afford the Jet-X engines the kits were designed for).
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Darwin, that's very interesting. Were those Jet-X designs offered as kits, or just plans? At some point I may have to have a go at a paper slingshot glider of the F7U-3M or F-4D.
I wonder how hard it would be to build the stick and tissue versions as rubber powered pushers? |
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Hi Darvin - you are right that the Cutlass never received the engine he was deserved.
Not only that the J46 that powered the gutless Cutlass was de- rated from 10000lb to around 6000lb in full AB. Had rhe J46 performed as advertised the Cutlass could have been one of the leading aircraft of the mid 50's. But when I asked about radical the intention was also who was more innovative from the perspective of initial design. Yair |
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F7U-3M vs F-4D photos
I attach here more photos of the two- this time not compared.
Yair |
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An old Navy Chief used to talk about some of the aircraft he worked on way back when, one of which was the Cutlass. I remember him telling me that the nose gear strut was about 9 feet long when extended. He also said they were terribly under powered and difficult to work on. He said it was a happy day when the Navy got rid of them!
Bob
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Dear Bob - the Cutlass was a plane of many innovations that were never tried on former planes.
Therefore the maintainance was very hard for the ground crews. For instance it was the first navy plane to have pressurised hydraulic system of 3000 psi - somthing that created leaks. The J46 engines were having a very short life between overhalls even after the power of them was derated. But and this is a great but - the unique tween tail design and the overall look that exceeded the time in a way that it resembles more the F-14 than it's contemporaries made it very popular among US naval aviation history lovers !!! The fact that it's service was short with the navy was true with many other similar jets of the 50's and in the Cutlass case the navy lost intention in it as early as the Crusader F8U-1 was available from Vought. Yair |
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Last year I made some serious scores on stick-and-tissue kits including the Skyray...now have well over a hundred kits out in the shop waiting for their turn under the knife.
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