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Old 06-21-2016, 09:12 AM
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14 cylinders is certainly repetitive. I could see no evidence of wrinkling or delamination. How did you deal with the problems?
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:37 AM
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I love the color scheme on this kit.

I ran into the same delaminating problem early on when I started building the engine first. I solved the problem by scanning the kit and printing it on better cardstock.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:52 AM
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@ Don / Elliot - on the cylinders, the parts are thin enough to be rolled uniformly. So, the wrinkles are less susceptible to appear. The thinner parts did tend to delaminate at the extremities. A bit of glue solved the problem. It would be worse if they “choose” to delaminate completely…
@ Sakrison – Well, that’s a radical solution! Unfortunately, my “print at home” experience is not good. Thanks to Don, I had already seen your lovely model. The fuselage shinning is still there. So, I guess that you didn’t reprint the whole kit…

The upper sections of the cylinders have two parts. I added a tab and a bit of card to help fix the top part.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:25 AM
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Looking very good already Ricardo. Did you fill up the cylinders to provide a good round shape, or is the filler paper part of the model's design? I usually round them on a small dowel and apply a tightly rolled tube of paper to keep the cylinder into shape after gluing.
I must say I didn't have problems with delaminating of the paper when building Kartonowa's F104G, but running a bit of white glue along the edges always helps, also on fold lines!

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Old 06-23-2016, 01:41 AM
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Impresive work, clean as always.

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Old 06-23-2016, 06:42 AM
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Thanks, Erik and Paul
@ Erik - The rolled paper bits inside the cylinders are not part of the kit. As the paper rolls are very easy to make, I often use them. A first try serves to check the paper strip lenght and the others can be made on autopilot.
Well, I don't know if Kartonowa changed the paper quality, as the F-104 kit is more recent. If they did, that's a big "plus". The white paint I use is rather thick. I wouldn't be able to put it on cut and fold edges and keep it invisible, as you manage to do. The blame may be on the modeler, too

The engine is complete. The cockpit will be next.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:57 AM
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Great work on the engine. The details look very realistic.

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Old 06-23-2016, 07:07 AM
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Very good craftsmanship.

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Old 06-23-2016, 07:33 AM
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Делал такую модель. Отличный самолет. На сайте models-paper.com раздел "Оружие победы" есть сборка.
Бумага в этом журнале действительно плохая((.
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I did such a model . An excellent plane . The site models-paper.com section " victory weapon " is the assembly . The paper in this journal really bad ( ( . (Google translate)

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Old 06-23-2016, 08:27 AM
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Exceptionally crisp and clean engine, Ricardo. A beautiful model in itself.

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