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Old 04-12-2018, 10:50 AM
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Very clean building Ricardo, great job!
Nice to see what you can do with a great model
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:22 PM
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Ricardo, great stuff as always. I concur with Yoav; the level of details of the internal structure of the tail fin makes me frown. But maybe the design of the skin is such that you need it for proper installation. I know by now that gluing outside skin on a Halinski model is much like sculpting, and for that you need a beefed up internal structure.

It looks like the elevator will be movable?

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Old 04-13-2018, 07:20 AM
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@ YOAV - you put a very good question On average, I prefer simple wing structures like those on many GPM kits. Sometimes, they are a bit too simple and I end up adding some parts. It was the case on the F-104: for my taste, there was too much structure on the fuselage and not enough on the wings. On Halinski kits, there is no lack of structure in the wings and tail surfaces. In the fuselage, it depends. Maybe less could be ok but I rarely get the feeling that some part would be better on another plane. Erik put it precisely: Halinski makes the skin parts to adjust very tightly to the structure and the complex structure does help you to get the correct shape for the primary assemblies. This is most important to ensure that secondary assemblies fit well on primary ones.
In the F-16 you are building, the fin structure can almost be discarded. Nothing is going to glue there. So, if the shape is not exactly the intended one, it will be barely noticeable and have no further consequences. Now, consider how complex is the shape where thick wings mate the fuselage. See the Ki-43, for example. A less precise shape would mean hell!...

@ Falco - the construction pictures are part of the game

@ Glen - thanks

@ Erik - Maybe it be made mobile. On Halinski kits, I glue everything. On some Flymodel kits (Tigercat, just to name one) many parts are designed to be movable, at some expense to accuracy. Hard choice, as I like both approaches!

With today’s pictures, I conclude the tail section. The peculiar fuselage cross section is already apparent. Regarding the skin parts, I’m not convinced that so many parts were needed…
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:44 AM
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If the tail had a heavy structure, I could say that the nose does not stay behind! Maybe Halinski really wants us to buy the laser cut set…
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:03 AM
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... Maybe Halinski really wants us to buy the laser cut set…
Interesting explanation... Maybe you are right!

Anyway the 262 has notoriously balance issues and any model tends to sit on its tail. Perhaps this heavy nose it's provided to help the front wheel to stay on the ground...
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:23 AM
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So much structure... I bet that is exactly how the real plane was built.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:14 AM
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I must admit to simplifying these types of construction parts in HA kits, since making formers I leave off the tabs and slots and building is pretty easy ...I think the front gun views of the GPM model might be a bit more attractive but lots of weight needs added to the front.....
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:54 AM
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@ all - The model needs nose ballast. It is almost always the case in early jets and late propeller driven aircraft with tricycle landing gear. I'll get there...

The wheels were modeled by the usual method. The holes are big because the axles are made of large diameter pipes.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:12 PM
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Look at these TIRES... LOOK AT THEM!!!
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:27 AM
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The wheels were modeled by the usual method.
Nice!

Could you provide a link to the "usual method", please?

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