S&P 1/100 Me/Bf 109 series - Page 9

**Brent** · #81 07-10-2018, 12:32 AM

Great job Ted. The 109k is my favorite too. I have also modified and repainted Bruno's 109 as a g10 and k4 I just haven't had chance to test build them yet,

Brent

**Mike1158** · #82 07-10-2018, 04:36 AM

Have you made a version of the TL designed as a stop gap in case the 262 failed or was delayed further?

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**CMDRTED** · #83 07-10-2018, 06:03 AM

No Mike. No model of her exists. However looking at her drawings, it looks to be the wings and tail is all Me-262, with only the center fuselage based on the 109. the nose also looks to be 262 like. "like, I just drive 'em man, like I don't know what makes 'em go, woof woof woof" in other words I just build 'em.

**CMDRTED** · #84 07-10-2018, 06:47 AM

The odd story behind the Ha-1112 "buchon". The buchon or dove had its origins in WW2. their are many references of how the buchon came about but no actual English accounts of it in operational service. anyhows, the Germans were said to have left a few 109e frames behind after the Spanish civil war. later Spain obtained a license to build them and received a few airframes minus the engines and tails. as the war went on Germany could not send the Spanish the parts to complete the aircraft so the Spanish engineers tried a few local build engines. the first few were disappointing so after the war the Spanish had the novel idea of mating the plentiful merlin engines to their airframes. the upright v of the merlin led to the puffed forward cowling with bulges and coolers so characteristic of the buchon. the aircraft was armed with 2 20mm canons in the wings and sometimes a rocket pack under them. the modified airframes needed air dams on the wings and other small upgrades. The only account I could find was in the 50s when they were sent to Spanish Sahara to press their interests there. the low tech theater made the buchon perfect for that duty. buchons served in the Spanish air force along side F104s and were struck in the early 60s. they later starred in the movie Battle of Britain. and ended up in collectors hands...

**Rata** · #85 07-10-2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CMDRTED

Garry, still one or 2 left. The post war Ha-1112 Buchon and the avia s-199 on deck. I did promise a Battle of Britain E version which is on the bench.

If you wanted to kill two birds with one stone Bruno did one of his Buchons in BoB film colours.....

**scissorsandplanes** · #86 07-11-2018, 04:52 AM

I'm really looking forward to the complete family pictures.
Perhaps that could persuade me to do the TL

**CMDRTED** · #87 07-11-2018, 07:42 AM

Great idea Bruno! If you design it we will build it.
Last but not least is another post war Messerschmitt, the Avia S-199. The Czechs were manufacturing G model 109s during the war. at wars end they were stuck with more airframes then engines so they used the Jumo in line which they had tons of. these were also used in the he 111 I believe. the engine marriage was "adequate" but the aircraft suffered performance issues, it was tough to handle, take offs and landings became a thrill ride so the little s-199 got the nickname mule. the Israelis made the best use of them buying @ 25 of them and used them during their war of independence. this model was their first air to air kill downing 2 Egyptian c47s. However, even the resourceful and dedicated Israelis did not like this plane, tough to maintain, tough to fly and particularly land, causing many accidents.

**CMDRTED** · #88 07-11-2018, 07:46 AM

Last up is the 2 seat training S-199. The Czechs built 2 versions of this , one armed and the other unarmed and sometimes fitted with recon cameras. This wraps up the 109 odyssey unless Bruno designs the TL109 seen in the drawings. Now what next.....