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Old 06-14-2018, 06:21 AM
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This is looking so beautiful.
A truly magnificent model.
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Old 06-15-2018, 02:38 AM
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That pesky gas tank...

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The photos & plans show a "benzin" tank under the pilot.

Not a plane that I would want to fly.
@Zakopious, if you crash in one of these, it honestly isn't going to make much difference whether the fuel tank is in front of you, behind you, or under you. You’re in serious difficulties in any scenario.

And your likelihood of crashing might be compounded by the controls. If I remember correctly (don’t trust my memory completely on this please!) these had the confusing original Nieuport reversed controls, where the stick was for elevator and rudder, and the pedals were for roll control by wing-warping, since that required the strength of the pilot’s legs.
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Old 06-15-2018, 02:57 AM
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@Zakopious, if you crash in one of these, it honestly isn't going to make much difference whether the fuel tank is in front of you, behind you, or under you. You’re in serious difficulties in any scenario.

And your likelihood of crashing might be compounded by the controls. If I remember correctly (don’t trust my memory completely on this please!) these had the confusing original Nieuport reversed controls, where the stick was for elevator and rudder, and the pedals were for roll control by wing-warping, since that required the strength of the pilot’s legs.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:08 AM
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I was thinking more like having the gas tank being ignited by enemy fire will still in the air.
Either scenario is terrifying.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:52 AM
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Hello,
Small update. Horizontal stabilizer and ruddr are completed.
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Dick
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Old 06-24-2018, 03:48 AM
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It looks....well....REAL!
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Old 06-24-2018, 03:51 AM
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As you well know that is great work.

So even that early the Nieuport tail was evident. I don't think they knew much about aeronautics then so I guess this is just what worked. That tail was a Nieuport standard until like the -24bis or the -27.

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Old 06-25-2018, 01:07 AM
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As you well know that is great work.

So even that early the Nieuport tail was evident. I don't think they knew much about aeronautics then so I guess this is just what worked. That tail was a Nieuport standard until like the -24bis or the -27.

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Michael I think you are wrong. Alreadty in this period the constructors had a lot of knowledgfe about aerodynamics and for example they used wind tunnels.
Early Nieuport's had the rudder only. Nieuport 27 had aready fin stabilizer with rudder.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:41 AM
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Mea Culpa. Yes even the Wrights used a wind tunnel.

I always wondered how you would test a heliokopter in a wind tunnel!!
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:44 PM
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Mea Culpa. Yes even the Wrights used a wind tunnel.

I always wondered how you would test a heliokopter in a wind tunnel!!
VERY carefully....
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