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Old 06-09-2019, 09:29 AM
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Looking into the artist who designed the later Ingénia models, he is Jean des Gachons, and he designed at least one model outside of the Ingénia series. Found this for sale at ABEBooks,
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Boo...m-waAodk8P8HAQ


Locomotives "Mountain Est" "Crampton". Designed in 1976, if I read the small numerals after his signature correctly.

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Old 06-09-2019, 09:32 AM
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And the early Ingénia artist "E. A. Schefer" is Emile André Schefer, also a commercial artist who designed posters of trains and cars in the 1920's and 1930's, also findable with Google. Some of the subjects are the same trains that appear as Ingénia models
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Old 06-09-2019, 11:34 AM
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Rob - Could you show us a portion of the model of one of the kits? Don
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To reply to your first question.

Ingenia seems to temporary cut production during ww2 is may be a post ww2 editing free French airplane. And it should be a smart idea to produce them just after war ended
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:29 PM
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Thanks, Renaud, very generous.

My whine is that it's sad that the invasive "Allow Cookie Policy" is becoming a mandatory norm to view more and more web sites. Yes, I know, nothing is free.

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Thank you for changing " whin " to " whine " to help native speakers to understand better what I meant: as you guess, I live just across the Channel, 40 miles away from the seaside, on the French bank!
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:40 PM
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Thanks, Renaud, very generous.

My whine is that it's sad that the invasive "Allow Cookie Policy" is becoming a mandatory norm to view more and more web sites. Yes, I know, nothing is free.

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Thank you for changing " whin " to " whine " to help native speakers and others too to understand better what I meant: as you guess, I live just across the Channel, 40 miles away from the seaside, but on the French bank!
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Thank you Don and Monsieur E. For example, here is the Ingenia B-29, with an image clipped from the French eBay listing I found AFTER the bidding was over (Rats!). You can see it here: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/132656680758
You can see "J des Gachons 1944" to the left and above the image. His usual style of signing. M. E, I think this could mean it was printed during the war, perhaps in Great Britain. He has other designs from 1941 and 1942 indicated in a similar fashion. Or do you think he designed them secretly, and laid them aside until after the war was over? Here is the close up.


By contrast, Shefer usually hid his signature somewhere where it would be visible on the finished model. I attach an example of that with E. A. Schefer's signoff next to the tail wheel on the Farman 224.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:02 AM
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B29 from L'Ingenia

I have it, as well as the P38 from the same manufacturer! It is somewhat much longer to scan and reassemble with accuracy, as I did with the Dewoitine D520. Are some people here interested in, anyway?
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I am of course intéressed and the fact that the question of during war design and maybe produce are really intriging
If u scan it may u add a ruler Or a long enough checked b/w paper band in order to readjust everything easily. I have modest skill with PS/AI so I m strongly intéressed. If u have some "modèle exact" printing as well. Thanks in advance.

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Old 06-12-2019, 07:23 PM
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I've seen Rob's impressive collection. It hangs from a big, broad ceiling, AND it resides on many bookshelves. Well done, Rob!
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