KC-135 Stratotanker

[wireandpaper]

Looking forward to the completed plane. Thank you for sharing

[sepp10]

I too would like to have a copy of the vectorized model, so I did some more digging.
It appears that this is indeed a Bob Bendorf model.
See A decent-sized KC-135R? for some discussion. Perhaps someone knows how to contact him.

[airdave]

This is old, but maybe?...

bobbendorf46 (at) hotmail dot com

[Skylarc]

Originally Posted by airdave

You need to get permission from the original author.
Is there nothing on the model itself?
Did you not say its the same designer that authored a model at Lower Hudson Valley?
if so, then you know where to start.

If the model is pirated on a Russian site, it shouldn't be downloaded.
It doesn't matter how old it is, or how "forgotten" it is...its copied and redistributed without permission.

I'm tired of people (here) who think if a designer ceases operations, then his models are suddenly free to share.
They're not!

In this case, you say you had the model for some time (pre finding it on this Russian site?) and you've recoloured for personal use.
I say thats okay.
But you still need to track down the author and get permission to redistribute your modified version.
And tell him where you got your copy, so he can decide if its legit.

Okay mister high horse. You act like I totally didn’t say that I wasn’t comfortable sharing my updated version because I didn’t want to share it without the original creators permission. I could just be a jerk and share it, but clearly that’s not the action I’ve taken.

Also, unfortunately, there’s nothing really anyone can do about Russian pirated models. Unfortunately for one, US copyright laws don’t apply to them. As the owner/original creator he could attempt to go after them but there’s no action he could take against someone in the US who purchased it. Copyright law is not as straight forward as many Americans pretend to think they are. I regularly sell my artwork and turned it in to a business but one thing I was advised to do was protect my work as much as I possibly can because once a foreign entity gets it and wants to sell it I’m out of luck. Can’t afford the legal fees to go after someone in a different country.

Regardless, I clearly stated that I didn’t want to share it without the owners permission and that I have been trying to figure out who created it and how to get ahold of them so you can move along next time. cheers.

[airdave]

No acting here I made no assumptions about your intentions...I can read.

You asked a question (about sharing your modified version of someone elses model) I answered it.

You don't like the answer...find a lower Horse.

And your opinions on copyright laws and where they apply is irrelevant.

[Skylarc]

Originally Posted by airdave

No acting here I made no assumptions about your intentions...I can read.

You asked a question (about sharing your modified version of someone elses model) I answered it.

You don't like the answer...find a lower Horse.

And your opinions on copyright laws and where they apply is irrelevant.

Yeah you didn’t read my comment at all lol. I didn’t ask a question, I plain and simply stated that I did not want to share the model for free with people until I found the owner and had his permission. Very clearly stated. You read what you wanted to read, not what I said. And my “opinions” on copyright law are 1: not my opinions, and 2: are absolutely relevant. If you disagree then that’s your own problem and I can’t help you haha.

[Skylarc]

Also I have no clue where you got this from, because I certainly didn’t say this... I get the sense you intentionally seek out conflict?

Originally Posted by airdave

Did you not say its the same designer that authored a model at Lower Hudson Valley?
if so, then you know where to start.

I'm tired of people (here) who think if a designer ceases operations, then his models are suddenly free to share.
They're not![/I]

I never said anything about assuming it was suddenly free. Take your imaginary conflict elsewhere please.

[airdave]

The comment in italics was not directed at you.
It was directed to "people" at this forum ("here") that might have this opinion.

Stop being so snarky and stick to your topic.
This statement that you made might appear to some as question: "I’ve had a few requests for the copy I have. I’m not sure whether I can share it or not..."

Do what ever you want...just don't share someone else's model without their permission.
And that includes modified versions.
Have you seen my boat?

[Skylarc]

Originally Posted by airdave

The comment in italics was not directed at you.
It was directed to "people" at this forum ("here") that might have this opinion.

Stop being so snarky and stick to your topic.
This statement that you made might appear to some as question: "I’ve had a few requests for the copy I have. I’m not sure whether I can share it or not..."

Do what ever you want...just don't share someone else's model without their permission.
And that includes modified versions.
Have you seen my boat?

Again, I made it clear that I wasn’t comfortable sharing this model with people for free. So your entire argument is really irrelevant here.

How about you stick to the topic of my post? Why can’t we just enjoy paper models without people like you insisting on causing unnecessary trouble? I’ve been informed by a few people that this kind of behavior is normal for you and your kinda known for it on this forum. Welcome to my thread, would you like to enjoy the work I shared? No? Buzz off.

[airdave]

The only people who get offended when I talk about paper model copyrights and intellectual property rights
are those who don't give a crap about those rights.
And they usually complain that I am a trouble maker.

Its odd that you've taken this all so personally.

As I said, you made statement on a public forum that invited a public forum response.

It was totally on topic.
Your topic...about this aircraft model, your modifications to said model,
and whether you had any rights to share it with others.

The fact that you didn't get the thumbs up to do so, seems to have irritated you.

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