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Old 09-22-2018, 12:50 AM
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Colors of the Short Skyvans in the Malvinas

Dear All:
I want to do a recolor of the two Skyvans that served in the Malvinas from the Prefectura Naval Argentina, but I only have the profiles and a few B&W photos showing conflicting patterns. The PA-54 shows a light green with brown blotches and a yellow band. I presume that the undersurfaces are light and that the upper surfaces are in the same patter, but I want to believe that they might had also yellow bands, as the Pucaras and other aircraft operating in the theater.
Other Skyvan has been portrait with an uneven yellow band in dark/olive green. And there is photographic evidence for the band but not the color of the plane.
Questions:
What color is the undersurfaces?
Do the upper wings have yellow bans and where?
Do the upper wings have insignias an where?
a) single anchor
b) crossed anchors
c) blanquiceleste cockade
Finally, there are pictures showing a two tone camouflage similar in pattern to the Omani Skyvans.
Could this be PA-50, and the same questions as above?

I hope a fellow papermodeler bring some light to these issues. Yes a primary target is Chicharrero, but others from the Cono Sur or elsewhere could help.

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Old 09-22-2018, 03:51 AM
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The only reference I have for the Argentine Skyvan shows one of two deployed to the Falkland islands (PA-50 and PA-54) on the bottom right of this picture, not great quality but there is a shortage of full colour data on this subject as you have found.
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Old 09-22-2018, 04:33 AM
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PA-54 Disabled Stanley airport May 3rd which leaves PA-50 as the aircraft lost on Pebble island. In 1979 PA-50 was camouflaged as below but memory tells me both aircraft were brown/tan with yellow stripe and red cross.
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This site only mentions the yellow stripe on the fuselage added after may 1. A picture of the damaged PA-54 clearly shows that stripe covered part of the "Prefectura Naval Argentina" marking and also shows a (red?) cross on the front fuselage.
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Old 09-22-2018, 12:22 PM
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Thank you all:
Very important information. I will wait a little for any Argentinian to give a clue, if not I will use artistic license and guesstimation (chilimetria aplicada)
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Old 09-22-2018, 03:19 PM
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Great collaborative research and reasoned speculation on a topic about which I know nothing. I have enjoyed reading the exchange of posts and, in the absence of authoritative information from Argentina, I think artistic license and guesstimation is entirely appropriate.

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Old 09-22-2018, 05:01 PM
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Here you have 2 photos of PA-54 destroyed. It's all I found, I do not know if they will serve you, I do not find any schemes, not even on the official website of Prefectura. I'll keep looking.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:03 PM
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I found a couple of more photos, one is black and white, but a cross is seen. They were taken on the island during the conflict. The first photo shows the color of the camouflage well.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:23 PM
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Muchisisisimas gracias / Thank you very muuuuch.
The posed picture confirms the camouflage and on two of the pictures a black band is visible on top of the fuselage. Plus the picture posted by Mike shows a different a more conventional camouflage and light wing undersurface on the PA-50.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:54 PM
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Other 2 photos, here is appreciated as was the camouflage, missing the yellow band that was added during the conflict. These photos are before the war, but the camouflage remained so adding the yellow band. I hope you be useful
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