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**Texman** · #1 11-22-2021, 08:57 PM

cannot find authenticating references.

Does anyone have any information on this aircraft? I am wanting
to build it, but I can find nothing to indicate it is a real scheme.

Thanks for the help!

**Isaac** · #2 11-22-2021, 10:25 PM

Based on my knowledge this is not a real scheme.

The Mig-17F in North Vietnamese service did not have the national marking on the tail, but rather on either side of the rear fuselage.

see a photo I took while in Vietnam

Also, I don't know if they had an aerobatic display team aircraft that would be painted as such.

The rest of your picture appears to be a speculative copy of the Soviet air force aerobatic team.

If you have more details or other photos similar to the one you posted, it would be helpful.

Isaac

**yukonjohn** · #3 11-22-2021, 10:51 PM

The only reference I found to that scheme/number was a flight sim package (pdf attached), but depicting a two-seat version (Chinese built JJ-5). Updated - see next post.

Regards,
John

**yukonjohn** · #4 11-22-2021, 11:39 PM

Actually, that scheme and 518 is not a Mig 17F but a JJ-5, and not Viet Nam, but Chinese Aerobatic team:

'Ba Yi' (August 1st) PLAAF Shenyang JJ-5 Aerobatic Team - YouTube

John

**Rata** · #5 11-22-2021, 11:58 PM

I'm guessing fictional. One factor that suggests that is the nose serial. I haven't found a NVAF MiG-17 with a three digit one like this. They all seem to have four.

Do it anyway Texman and call it a 'what if'. Whether it existed or not, it would still make a cool looking model.

**Tapcho** · #6 11-23-2021, 03:02 AM

Or you could do the Red Bull Mig 17, it's red too.

Tappi

**Kevin WS** · #7 11-23-2021, 03:46 AM

It certainly is the same as the Chinese Airforce Aerobatic team.

But in Vietnamese markings - may be fictitious - can find no photographic or reference to this scheme with Vietnamese markings. But, who knows?!!!

**Texman** · #8 11-23-2021, 05:22 AM

Thanks everyone. We have all come to the same conclusion.
I also cannot find any clear references that the August 1st demo
team flew single seat aircraft.
So, I may just change the national markings. Don't know yet.

Thank you again!

**Isaac** · #9 11-23-2021, 09:32 AM

In addition to our "what if" fantasy aircraft, it has become easy to manipulate photos to a "believable" status.

How about this Messerschmitt Me-262 ( Czech built version S-92 ) in Israeli Air Force post Six Day War colors?

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As long as it is acknowledged that this is a What if model, I like it.

Isaac

**cafe** · #10 11-23-2021, 12:34 PM

If you want a red single-seat MiG-17, there's this one. It's an ealy MiG-17 "sans suffixe" though, not the more common MiG-17F with afterburner-equiped VK-1F engine. Note the different airbrakes.