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I don't remember seeing it posted in this thread, but I got that insignia from this website:
Seattle World Cruiser - Home Page They have a lot of History on this, and are building a replica of the one christened in the honor of that town. They are also planning to fly it around the world!! |
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I wonder if it would be "legal" for MurphyAA to work from a scan of your model if you were willing to provide him with high quality scans?
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I noticed a lot of people expressing methods and techniques in the "Maine Lobster Boat" thread, seeing how this one was of a similar fashion, and I was suffering from insomnia last night, I banged out a fuselage for some mental exercise and for the heck of it. Though the Douglas world Cruiser has some rather straightforward lines, the overall shape has some subtleties that make it stand out. This was done up in about an hour of poking around, and looking for suitable reference pictures, so it is a rough work. I wanted to show a different method for making the fuselage, and the next step will be to take apart the fuselage to get rid of the vertical lines the seem to plague paper airplane models. This is just an exercise and expression of some ideas.
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The "Chicago" is now on display at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. : Douglas World Cruiser Chicago - Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. I can get more details if I know specifically what you need (I know people there ).
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I will start a new dedicated thread here if I decide to make this into a model. I was thinking more of making the 'model" as a blank and letting people do their own graphics. |
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Zathros and Looker! You guys have hit on the central idea I have talked about in other threads.
#1- the way paper airplanes and ships are designed is all wrong. The panels should follow the pattern established by the original aircraft or ship. #2- Paper IS capable of being worked into a compound shape. The larger the piece of paper, the more it can be shaped. There is an obvious limitation to this. But, I keep on showing in-progress shots of my FJ-1 Fury to prove the point. All the current designs rely on wrap-around truncated curves to create fuselage panels. Construction of said panels results in a choppy looking fuselage outline. However, in my case, this 1/33 scale model easily let itself to "rolling" the paper to achieve flowing curves. The term "roll" refers to the process metalworkers use to apply a compound curve to metal using an English wheel. I merely made a variation of the English wheel suitable to the limitations imposed by paper. Zathros, with your method of design, you should be able to achieve the delicate curves of the original aircraft quite easily.
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Yes, CD, that's one reason I like bigger models Models built the old fashioned way had advantages because you can soak high quality and make intense compound shapes. This fuselage isn't so far off. A big more work, then breaking up the pieces so they former anything but a perpendicular to the center line I believe will result in a aesthetically more pleasing, and also technically more accurate mode. I think the saturation of the hobby with simple generic models has it's place but also detracts modelers from improving because the designers do not push harder. If it wasn't for health reasons I would try and produce more, but these days, the migraines are making it hard to even look at a monitor. I have thought of making the bulk of the model and just throwing it out there, to see if anyone would just take it and do what they wish with it. All the hard shapes done, leave the graphics to whomever.
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Well, since I don't use formers (and don't intend to) I'm kind of limited as to how I can design a fuselage.
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You can in fact use the Panel Lines you make, (so well, by the way), as cutting tools, and have your models go together however you wish. Theoretically, you could have someone make a fuselage, all white, then attach the surfaces you made by cutting them with panel lines, and end up with a plane in which the seams don't show at all. Since you have Rhino also, it would actually be very easy, and since you are great at making panel lines, there could be no better potential. The only limits you have on how you make a fuselage are self imposed. Since you aren't trying to sell Halinski level models, and your prices are so reasonable, anyone expecting that would be foolish. This process however could make any model more aesthetically pleasing. Frankly, that the "Halinski type companies don't do this is really quite obnoxious, considering their prices. Some of the models built have quite a high level of expertise poured into them, but nothing hides the lines of the sections. It's an old way of thinking. |
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