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A puzzle for the aircraft buffs - what is it?

I actually do not know how hard this will be for someone to work out, but I am curious!

No hints I think are necessary...........at this stage anyway! There are more than enough give-aways in the photo!

Exact answer sought!
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Hot dog. That was quick!

But Rick, there is a catch to this!
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it is probably modified for a movie role
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Rick beat me!

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Don, no he did'nt - not really!

Rick - movie mod - no its not, not really!
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At first glance, it appears to be an O-2B, one of early examples of the O-2 when the Air Force pulled civilian C-336 Skymasters (fixed gear) off the shelf and put them into the Vietnamese theater as "Bullshit Bombers" -- 336s with speakers mounted in the baggage door to broadcast propoganda and psy-ops to the enemy. If it were a USAF plane, the absence of extra windows, fixed gear, and the spinner on the prop would identify this as an O-2B. But the hard points and camo scheme suggest that it's not an American plane; some other country has apparently modified an C-336 for combat.

The fireball suggests that this plane is on a strafing run, which means it's a fixed-gear C-336. A C-337 would have its gear up during combat.

Cessna began building C-337Ms for the Air Force with beefed up spars and airframes, hardpoints, and extra windows. When those aircraft went operational, it was designated O-2A. Cessna built about 525 of these between 1967 and 1970, when the OV-1 Bronco came on line.

Why The -B first and then the -A? Probably because everyone knew the off-the-shelf O-2B was a stopgap measure while Cessna spooled up production of the militarized C-337.

A great way to see these in action is the move "Bat 21."
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Oops, the red & white aircraft pictured above is a pressurized C-337P. The windows give it away. Here's a civilian C-336 Skymaster.
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Lynx F337, French built O-2, Rhodesian Air Force.
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Texman - first prize!

That was quick - I really thought there may be a bit of a struggle. Alas no!

Sakrison - very erudite indeed - you know your stuff!

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Yes, French built - the Reims Cessna FTB337G.

225 HP Continental TSIO-360-engines, Robertson STOL kit, and no cabin pressurization. By way of militarisation it only had 4 wing hard points. Little seemed to have been done to militairise them - no extra windows on top (like the O-2 etc.). The French called it the "Milirole". Pictures of them in service with the Portuguese and other airforces never seem to show them armed up or with the pylons!

61 only were built - 21 found their way to Rhodesia during the sanctions busting.

The Rhodesians then further modified them and called them the LYNX. A bubble window was fiited on the port side.

The hard points in the wings were not deemed to be 100 per cent for heavy loads, and there was a reluctance to use rockets off these (they were a bit "weedy") - although 63mm SNEB were deemed to be acceptable and within limits.

There were also only 2 hard points per wing and it was just not feasible, given the strength of the Reims airframe, to fit more.

However, as it was to be used in a COIN role to support "Fire Force" some more firepower was needed and eventually after a lot of trial and error a rather Heathrobisonish arrangement was made with two gun "pods" attached above the cabin - the only place apparently strong enough to support them without causing fatigue and damage. These were permanent fittings.

Even so, the guns were limited to 303 Browning (600 rounds each were carried).

Carried on the pylons were more commonly a mix of Frantan (napalm), and mini-Golf bombs (blast and shrapnel). There were two types of Golf Bomb - the small Mk1 and a later version which was distinguishable by a two metre long probe (looked like a cannon in flight!).

Both the Frantan and Golf bombs were also locally developed and manufactured.

Most pilots regarded the Lynx as "fragile" and did not generally undertake any drastic manouevers when they were armed.

The aircraft were the standard Cessna beige inside, and were camouflaged with a matt dark green and matt dark olive finish. Black serials on the fins, and yellow warning stripes (very thin) around the booms near the back prop, along with a small yellow arrow and warning sign. No other markings. The ammunition for the guns and the spent shell casings were in bins behnd the crew.

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Here are some photos that really show the differences and the interesting bits....

Photo 1 - a Lynx in flight. Shows the gun "pods" nicely!

Photo 2 - The gun arangement on the top! Very home made! But it worked fine....

Photo 3 - Mk1 Golf Bombs. Note the weedy little pylons!

Photo 4 - Later Mk golf Bombs (with the probes) and Frantan (without).

Photo 5 - A Lynx with rockets on the outer plylons. Note the other feature of this plane - the bubble window - only on the left.

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