airdave just told me to leave papermodelers.com

[spaceagent-9]

Here is the offensive message sent to me in this forum.

Jim, I have known you for a long time.
You came to me for help many times and i gave it, no questions asked.
We helped you out at ecardmodels whenever you needed it.
Nobody here has ever said anything bad to you,
or treated you unfairly.
I have never treated you unfairly.
For you to side with zathros and say the things you have said (about me and this forum) is wrong.
Zathros is a liar...if you can't see that, then maybe you are better off there.
Consider yourself removed from my friends list.
Dave

I am dismayed that after airdave's rant about UHU02, having that thread removed, along with his comments about other papermodelers, texman saying ''we don't do that here'' and then correcting that later, rickstef accusing me of threatening texman, without any kind of foundation, and now again the original problem saying the same cover-up bullcrap again, ''we don't do that here.''

well obviously you do.

And you need to stop.

[rickstef]

Jim,

You did threaten Texman, these are your own words http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/599630-post2.html
It is not the first time you have said something similar to this, you have threatened me in private messages, and I have always helped you, your own paranoia is to blame, we are not out to get you, stop blaming others.

There is nothing offensive in Dave's message, and now you made a private matter public, there was no need for that. You and Dave are adults, and should be able to work this out between yourselves, and not involve the entire forum, and world.

You could have stopped this by not posting this in the first place.

Rick

[airdave]

how is this me telling you to leave this forum?

my message is clear, I removed you from my friends list
because I read your comments regarding me and this forum (at zealot).

I didnt tell you to join zealot...or try to stop you.
I just read your comment over there about why you want to leave this forum
and are happier over at zealot.
well, so be it then.

this is a private communication, so I dont know why you would post it here.
but I dont care.
...my message was clear (in private) Jim...and its clear in public.

I had no intention of embarrassing you in public.

I never "ranted" about Uhu...another zathros lie you have taken as truth.

Jim, if you are upset that I have "unfriended" you, this doesn't help.

[spaceagent-9]

Ignoring your previous rant and saying that ''we don't do that here'' isn't a parcel of integrity to you two.
There is no threat, regretting something wrong that you did was simple advice. hypersensitive bull crap makes it appear threatening to you.
Sorry,
I am not upset at you unfriending me, I have seen your meltdowns before every 3-4 months. I just figured you might want to change your mind as I messaged you. but being strong armed is something the public should know that you two are doing to members.
You did rant about UH02 and I will post that copy here if I have to. So Grow up airdave.
I did not say I wanted to leave this forum, or was happier at zealot until your 3 day ranting about Zathros and UHU02 and then taxman's accusations that '' this kind of stuff doesn't happen here'' but it does. even if its in private. in fact I did say that I would stay and look at the new paper model events.
obviously U2 need to look at yourself, and decide which is more important, BEING A LIAR. or conducting yourselfs appropriately. by the way any more strong arming me to leave private messages will be public.

[airdave]

and, I sent this to you yesterday Jim...
it concerns me that you got 24 hours of coaching before you finally responded?

judging by what you are now posting at zealot, I'd say you guys continue to be the ones ranting.

Jim...your post from zealot

well air dave had another meltdown this time claiming me one of the ''THEM'' that is ruining his life, here is his pm to me.
...
Notice the ''we don't do that here'' theme in the entire belittling narcissistic message to me. of course you Zathros, remember when my profile there was ruined and you and Chris fixed that, also numerous remarks by Thokamos and mechanic about how I am a no talent idiot. texman made sure I had a smear on my record there, about my complaint about a joke he twisted into a threat to the forum, as he did thru rickstef with my recent advice to pull down his little cover-up speech about ''how we don't do that here'' and then after being scolded went and checked and said he was wrong. a few others that actually backed up their ugly remarks with a great rockyjones rocket to replace my simple 3 inch tall one.

I claimed you are "ruining my life"?
LOL Not once, in my message, did I use the words "we don't do that here"

Why don't you guys (at zealot) stop?
You keep claiming that we (here at pm.com) are the ones who are keeping this going.
but obviously we are not.
Pm.com has removed from view (not deleted) certain threads to benefit you.
We haven't posted things for days.
And yet the zathros "bashing" thread keeps growing as he, and a handful of supporters keeps throwing out the "bashes".

I've been asked to curb some of my comments.
But how does one "stop" bashing you guys, when you keep this flame lit?

[airdave]

Fine...I'm done with this.
Close the thread.
Delete the thread in the interest of better relations, I don't care.
Not my thread anyway.

Tired of being told I have "meltdowns" when all I do is respond to flat out lies,
libel and slander.
If I had the money I would have hired a Lawyer by now.

[spaceagent-9]

here it is, and as you can plainly see, the harassment and accusations are continuing in airdave's continuing meltdown and lying about not losing his mind over UHU02's talent.

[spaceagent-9]

Yeah,
typical narcissist response. when losing complete abandonment and a ''I coulda woulda shoulda'' I didn't believe all the talk about you, airdave, but after seeing it and now this, I am glad you showed your true colors.

[spaceagent-9]

I never ranted about UHU02 ? and Zathros has taken down another road of lies? Are you for real??

[Rubenandres77]

Everyone has the freedom to approach other persons.
And everyone has the same freedom to be apart from those persons if they wish to.
Nobody is obliged to stick together.
And everyone must respect the others' decisions. Even if they're not shared.

I believe we come near persons when we need to learn something, or when they need to learn something form us.
Once that process is complete, there is no reason to keep walking together.

Exactly the same happens with places in real life, and places in the internet (like this gathering place called papermodelers.)

Everybody should try to engage those processes peacefully. Knowing that it is a waste of time an energy to fight over certain things.
Some things just will never be fixed, no matter how hard everybody tries.
And some things will never be understood without a good "otherness" exercise when we can see from the other's point of view.
And even after that, some positions will never ever move.

But please keep private matters private.
And please use proper language.

And if there are any disciplinary matters that need to be taken care of,
administrators and moderator can be contacted to treat them.

I really don't understand why the whole forum must be involved in a matter between two people.