European Copyright Directive

**Kevin WS** · #1 03-26-2019, 12:30 PM

This has been discussed before in this Forum.

However, the legislation at that stage was in draft form and differed slightly from the final version.

The European Parliament has now (today) given final approval to the Copyright Directive, the package of legislation designed to update copyright law in Europe for the internet.

The Directive will have a huge impact on how the Internet works in Europe - and further afield.

The topic is complex and the directive will have to be studied to determine its impact, but it can only be good news for those people selling (their own!) paper models.

The Wiki page has a good explanation here... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct..._Single_Market

You can read the actual Directive here...
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ...1L0029:EN:HTML

There is a lot of emotive posting going in relation to the directive, but these relate mainly to Social Media users, who going forward will no longer be able to "share" other peoples copyrighted material.

The Directive will support the Universal Copyright Convention and the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works (international treaties which provide protection automatically for all creative works as soon as they are fixed in a medium).

Note that this affects the European Market and is applicable to controlling copyright within this market. There are far-reaching implications however, due to the international nature of the Internet.

**busoramas** · #2 03-26-2019, 03:06 PM

I am pretty sure that we won't see any change on the internet, internet always find the way to walk forward, and the excessive adds, commercial, logos, will still "pupoping" in all platforms, I really convinced that this is only to create a new system for taking our money, everything in the world is for money, not for the charity of protecting the copyright

**airdave** · #3 03-26-2019, 04:09 PM

I just checked pornhub and xhamster...everything is fine there....so far.

**CharlieC** · #4 03-27-2019, 01:22 AM

The directives have passed but it isn't enforceable law yet. The EU member countries now have 2 years to incorporate the EU directives into their own legal systems. So there are going to be 26 or 27 different interpretations of the directives - what could go wrong there....

It may be the EU may not survive for 2 years - the UK is leaving with Brexit, Italy is making serious noises about an Italexit. The EU hasn't responded to Italy deporting 1500 migrants last weekend yet. There are a number of Eastern European countries are moving closer to Russia as a result of the EU bureaucrats trying to "discipline" them. France looks like they'll be wheeling out the guillotine to discipline their government any day now.

Articles 11 and 13 are pure nastiness - the directives are trying to ensure that no "fair use" exists in the EU so most small YouTube publishers will get shut down. The only organisations with the resources to comply with the articles will be the legacy media and entertainment companies. I've seen an analysis that European internet will be streamed curated content from the big entertainment companies and the legacy media - everything else will be cleared away.

**southwestforests** · #5 03-27-2019, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieC

I've seen an analysis that European internet will be streamed curated content from the big entertainment companies and the legacy media - everything else will be cleared away.

I wonder whose official state-sanctioned theme (state-sanctioned reality) they are preparing to eventually present (impose).

**Revell-Fan** · #6 03-27-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieC

The directives have passed but it isn't enforceable law yet. The EU member countries now have 2 years to incorporate the EU directives into their own legal systems. So there are going to be 26 or 27 different interpretations of the directives - what could go wrong there....

INDEED! It will be very interesting to see how how the directives are handled. The leading party in Germany explicitely said there wouldn't be any upload filters which automatically scan uploaded content and cross-reference it with a huge data base to find any clues on copyrighted content. So how can the new law be enforced? Will there be a new governmental office with an entire army of people checking every bit of video which is uploaded to Youtube? That would be impossible. And who is going to pay for the additional work? How are satires and reviews handled which use bits and pieces of copyrighted content, not to mention images used for advertising? I doubt that the ones responsible were aware of the sheer amount of work this is producing.

In addition, what is going to happen with the illegally uploaded content that is already out there? That should be removed as well. The crux is, if one content is deleted it might appear on another platform under a new name - the hunt continues.

Implementing such directives are a good thing and long overdue, however, the damage has already been done.

**CharlieC** · #7 03-27-2019, 03:07 PM

I think the statement on the Duran was a reasonable prediction - the EU leadership wants an Internet like China's with the ultimate goal of an Internet like North Korea's. The Duran conversation is worth a look if you want to get a sense of the reach and impact of Articles 11 and 13. They did raise the point that there are hundreds of thousands, if not more, people are employed in creative uses of the Internet. After these articles are enforced they will be unemployed. (These are smart, computer literate people and the EU leaders are going to piss them off big time - that's clever. I can see EU leaders having to walk everywhere - can't trust their cars because the computers keep getting hacked and the GPS keeps sending them into rivers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJyaZv7fMkg

The point was also made that the EU copyright and enforcement system will fall naturally towards the most draconian because of how EU rules work.

The prediction was made that YouTube will produce a special version for Europe - with 10 channels - all mainstream media.

The main issue is that if the EU leadership gets away with this it will become a template for the rest of the world. Mmm...note to self - have to buy yellow vest and gas mask.

Regards,

Charlie

**Revell-Fan** · #8 03-27-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieC

After these articles are enforced they will be unemployed.

Hehe, and after that they will be hired by the government to help enforce the directive because they know how the creative mind works best - problem solved!

**Papierschnitzel** · #9 03-28-2019, 08:19 AM

Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the creatives will just move to a place where they can work without hassles.

**Revell-Fan** · #10 03-28-2019, 12:46 PM

Just imagine you have a DIY blog. You post the most useful things like a tutorial on how to repair a flat tire. You take pictures, write down the steps and maybe even make a small video for illustration. You create your own content which is covered by the new law, no-one will be able to take this content away from you without your consent. Everything looks fine, you try to upload it to your blog. But then, all of a sudden, you get a message that the content you was trying to upload is copyrighted and needs to be approved by the copyright owner first. Surely you are puzzled big time because it was your own content that is now being blocked and it is you who has all the rights for this content. After some research you find out that another person somewhere on this world also has a DIY blog and had already published a tutorial on how to fix a broken tire. You are then forced to ask this person for permission to upload your very-own content on your own blog.