Cardstock grades

[Butelczynski]

Are there any other grades of cardstock made beside 110lb and 65lb?

I could swear there use to be a 45 or 48lb and 80lb weight paper made but I searched today and came up empty handed. Discontinued since covid or is this my Swiss cheese memory acting up?

[Larry R.]

I recently received 80lb A4 cardstock from Amazon. Desktop brand.

[Isaac]

Originally Posted by Larry R.

I recently received 80lb A4 cardstock from Amazon. Desktop brand.

please send a link to this paper.


My issue is that almost all cardstock sold here in the USA is not available in A4 size.

secondly, the cardstock so far that I purchased is not fine enough fo a great print finish.


thus, I resorted to purchasing the Japanese cardstock in 160 GSM A4 format ( which I am running out of soon ).



I could use a source here in the USA for a high quality paper .



Isaac

[Larry R.]

Try this.

https://www.amazon.com/Heavyweight-W.../dp/B07MK3VZ92

[Isaac]

Originally Posted by Larry R.

Try this.

https://www.amazon.com/Heavyweight-W.../dp/B07MK3VZ92

Got it. Thanks.
This is a heavy 210 gsm paper which may be a bit too heavy for most applications.



here is a lighter version at 70 lbs: ( however, I am confused since they say it is equivalent to 109 gsm ) I am even more confused now

https://www.amazon.com/Premium-8-3-1...7FTXJCYF&psc=1



Thank you for the link.


Isaac

[mbauer]

Originally Posted by Butelczynski

Are there any other grades of cardstock made beside 110lb and 65lb?

I could swear there use to be a 45 or 48lb and 80lb weight paper made but I searched today and came up empty handed. Discontinued since covid or is this my Swiss cheese memory acting up?

Yes, there are several Equivalent weight charts available.

Forget the US method of pounds: use the Grams per square meter gsm to compare.

Using the USA method you have to learn about basis sheet size, and what that particular word means to what type of cardstock you want to use such as the following:
1) Cover has a different basis sheet size than
2) Index or
3) Vellum or
4) Tag

In my signature I have an old Cardstock link to see the Equivalent chart I made for Index compared to Tag and Cover. It shows how to compare the gsm to pounds.

Mike

[Isaac]

Here is the chart I pulled from the Amazon paper ad

Amazon.com




Other than the metric version in GSM, I can't make heads or tail of the other 4 versions



Example:
I need a 160 gsm paper. So using this chart unless it states the GSM upfront I have to choose from :

43 Bond
60 cover
90 index
110 text


so why have 4 different weights for the same paper weight in GSM?



Isaac

[mbauer]

Originally Posted by Isaac

Here is the chart I pulled from the Amazon paper ad

Amazon.com


Attachment 462818

Other than the metric version in GSM, I can't make heads or tail of the other 4 versions



Example:
I need a 160 gsm paper. So using this chart unless it states the GSM upfront I have to choose from :

43 Bond
60 cover
90 index
110 text


so why have 4 different weights for the same paper weight in GSM?



Isaac

Has to do with the professional printing presses. They use different weights for different things. Bond is basically copy paper we use everyday. Text is a version of bond, but you can get it in bigger weights and sheets sizes for printing press use. I purchased some 75lb text years ago, it is just heavy paper no-where near cardstock strength.

Cover is a type of cardstock. Index is a type of cardstock, Tag is another.

Look at the names. Index might mean index cards used in a file system. They need to be durable from handling.

Cover might mean a book cover. It has to be heavy and really durable.

Tag might mean tags with wire to attach to items. Usually this could mean a shipping address or item identification. They need to be semi-durable for limited one time use...

Anyway that is how I identify the types for my use.

Your chart is showing that the different TYPES of paper all have Different Weight Numbers to be the same weight in metric. You want 160gsm: look for the gsm that is closest to this. You would look for 60lb Cover or 90lb Index.

All of the numbers shown are the same weight but different stiffness and thickness. You need to also look at the Caliper thickness if you are trying to get the correct weight and thickness you need.

Mike

[OgdenBob]

I have been using a brand called NEENAH Exact Vellum Bristol, its weight is 67 lbs, 147gsm. It comes in 8/12" x 11" and 8 1/2" x 14" sizes. Not much different than 65 lb, I realize, but it works for me. I too wish we had a source for A4 paper in the US. I usually get mine through Amazon.


Bob

[SCEtoAUX]

I trim 8.5 x 14 to A4 size and use the cutoffs for reenforcements or reprinting small parts. The wider cutoffs are good for the reprinting. The narrow cutoffs are usually made into paper springs just for fun.