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Old 10-03-2010, 03:54 PM
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looking good so far, keep it up...
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another of our members is building a Fat Albert
and recently contacted me with some issues and troubles.

I am trying to answer some questions and provide some assistance with his build.

He also brought up a good point, something that I am trying to look into.
The idea that this model might be too short in the forward fuselage sections.
At least it appears to me, that if the fuselage is the correct scale length,
that the wings might be positioned a little too far forward.

Either of these problems is not difficult to remedy at this point.
I just need to use a good blueprint or side diagram of the aircraft
and some accurate scale measurements and see just how far off (if any) this model is.

I do have one nice side drawing of the plane,
if anyone else has a blueprint or proper scale drawing?
and/or some measurements?
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Sir, Sir, Can you make a repaint for my herk? This will help me and people here having a wonderful tiny Spectre and the Herk. Its size is just around 5-6 ince. Probably me, papermate, and Jan will assembly it.

I dream of the SE Spectre and the Fat albert, I do not want to interupt your precious time for doing this. But I would like to say "PLEASE"!! :D
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:26 PM
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Just found some information at: RAF Bulletin No. 3 about a C-130 used for scientific purposes.
But there's also a couple of probably useful images:





There's also a complete table of specifications in that site.



Great reading can be found here: http://tig.ludost.net/plane_c130.html
Nice images are at the bottom of that page, and here they are:













I hope these are useful for your project


Edit:
A cross section of the fuselage, probably not at scale, but with measurements:


from: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ad.main/96080/

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Old 10-03-2010, 05:59 PM
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Sir, Sir, Can you make a repaint for my herk? This will help me and people here having a wonderful tiny Spectre and the Herk. Its size is just around 5-6 ince. Probably me, papermate, and Jan will assembly it.

I dream of the SE Spectre and the Fat albert, I do not want to interupt your precious time for doing this. But I would like to say "PLEASE"!! :D
Jack? you want me to colour this Herc model?
as a Spectre?

Spectre can be solid gray (dark or light)...but the Spectre has guns and left side fuselage modifications.
this model is just a C-130, not an AC-130

I will do something later...can't do it right now.
okay?
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Spectre can be solid gray (dark or light)...but the Spectre has guns and left side fuselage modifications.
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Here are some drawings of the AC-130 that can be useful as a reference to see the differences as compared to the classic C-130 profile:



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Old 10-04-2010, 05:44 AM
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Hi Airdave,

This is a BIG HERC. I love it. Thanks for doing this. If it's not a hassle, would you consider making a pure white version, without any paint scheme. Here at my work, we operate C130's services them etc. etc. and they are completely white. Would like to put it on my dest at work. Of course as big as possible ;-)

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An all White version?
Obviously, once the design is in place, I can start making various colour and paint scheme versions...and at that time, I will ask for more infor regarding a White one.


As I justed posted in the Blue Angels Fat Albert thread...
work is progressing slowly but steadily on the Herc redraw.

I'm at a point where I need to finish a couple of other projects and get some test builds out of the way.
I am trying to get my latest Diorama Accessory Kit finished in time for Xmas.
...was hoping to get the herc done too, but thats far from possible.

Got the majority of the basic fuselage done for the Herc.Many changes compared to Nobi's original model.
Pretty much redrawn each fuselage section, a couple with major alterations, all new panel lines and details.
Dealt with a forward fuselage length issue...moved the Landing gear blisters and Gear wells toward the rear (about 3-4 feet).

Still trying to figure out a Tail door setup...might be tricky because of the former arrangement in that area.

Last thing I did is start on a new vert. tail design.

I need to test build some things before going any further, so I better get the other projects out the way!
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:05 AM
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Okay...the C-130/AC-130 redesign is officially underway!

All talk up to this point, but I have begun actually test building some parts.

Just to recap, Nobi has graciously allowed me to use his old C-130 kit
(the one I used for the fat Albert repaint)
as the basis for a completely new design.

The goal being to iron out a number of issues with the original kit,
rework many parts and details,
and add some new design work.
Once the C-130 is sorted out, the first priority is to create the AC-130 Spectre Gunship.

.................................................. ...............................

I have about 70% of the fuselage redesigned, including cleaning up a few part edges, tweaking curves and lines, etc.

I have thrown out all the detail and panel lines and started fresh.
(thanks to all for the earlier blueprints and line drawings!)

There was an issue with fuselage length ahead of the main wings,,
which when measured, appeared to be very close to scale accurate.
The problem turned out to be in the side blisters (that house the main landing gear)..I ended up moving those about 3'-4' rearward.

I've designed all new wheel wells for the Landing Gear,
as well as complete new Landing Gear and Wheels.

Before I go any further, its time to test build the parts so far...



All nose parts went together as expected.
I am building uncoloured, and I will mark necessary adjustments as I go.

Here you can see part of the new Wheel Well in place.
The new gear designs should look good in there!




Heres the front fuselage sections assembled, without main formers...
still working out a design for an intermediate former (that fits above the Wheel Well box)
but you can see there isn't much tweaking necessary with panel lines so far.



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