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Old 09-25-2010, 01:09 PM
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C-130 / AC-130 Hercules Redraw/Redesign (by Airdave)

As the title states, I am working on a complete redraw and redesign of the C-130.

I am hoping to add the necessary modifications to produce the AC-130 Spectre Gunship.
I'd also like to produce at least one Camo paintscheme Hercules C-130.
Who knows, maybe even redo the Blue Angels Fat Albert?



This will be a big project for me, and since I already have other things on the go, this won't be a quick project.

Hopefully anyone interested will help me along the way and give me some advice.

One of the first questions I have is about scale...
Nobi's C-130 kit (the one I used for my original Fat Albert repaint) is 1/48 scale.
That makes the final model about 24.5" long with a Wingspan of just over 33".

This is all based on Hercules specs, since I haven't built the model completely, at full scale, I can't corroborate those numbers.
I have however built a partial plane (no wings) at 2/3 of the original size and it came out at 16.3" long.
Which happens to be exactly 1/72 scale...so that kinda verifies the 1/48 scale measurements.

1/48 would be a nice build size for the model,
but with a 33"plus wingspan, many modelers might not be interested in the kit.
Since I have to appeal to the masses (the buying public that is) I have to consider what the majority of modelers will prefer.

Another reason for me to consider a downscale, is to reduce part size on the pages of the Kit.
This might not only reduce the number of pages in the kit, but more importantly,
allow me to reassemble certain areas of the model.
Like the Wings for example, which at 1/48 scale are made up of about 6 sections...at 1/72 scale I can probably reduce this to three or maybe even two sections.

Please let me know what you think about a final scale size for this kit...
do you prefer:

1/48 scale (final model is 24"plus long, with a 33"plus Wingspan)
or
1/72 scale (final models is 16"plus long, with a 22"plus Wingspan)

Keep in mind, the smaller scale makes a few areas a little trickier to build and reduces certain details that are available in the larger scale.

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I'd like to keep you updated as the design for this plane progresses,
and I'd love to hear any suggestions for additions, modifications or necessary alterations to the C-130 model.
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:33 PM
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My vote goes for as big as possible, but then im building a 13 foot sub so my vote shouldnt count much, im with richkat on big models :D. Whatever scale you choose, the Spectre is a wicked beast and I cant wait to see it.
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:34 PM
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1:72 is my favorite scale, but I like models with more details than most people build at 1:72 so I vote for the larger scale so I can make the little details even littler when I scale it down. :p
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:44 PM
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Dave,

I was a flight engineer (best seat in the -130) back at Pope AFB, in the early 90's,
when the 23rd became the 23rd Composite wing. When the time comes maybe you'll consider...

C-130 / AC-130 Hercules Redraw/Redesign (by Airdave)-41as-c130e-pope.jpg
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:07 PM
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Right now I am starting the redraw of the model...this will take a fair bit of work.
I need to stay focused on the model and getting the basics of the C130 in place.
My goal is to create a new base model to work with before thinking about anything else.
I am trying real hard not to focus on the AC-130 or any Herc for that matter.
And trying not to think about paint schemes and model mods for the Gunship version.

...but I have already been researching the Gunship armaments! lol
I just can't stop looking at stuff!
I do like the sharkmouth artwork.

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So whats that Ray?...just a basic C130E, in the lighter gray, with sharkmouth art.
Nothing else special about it?

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When I get a little more understanding of versions, I will put out some request for paint schemes.
I will have my favorites and choices for repaints, but I will definately ask for some opinions and suggestions.
For now...focus on the model artwork.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:28 PM
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It's easier to scale down a model than scale up.

I say go with 1/48 with instructions listing at what percentage to print at other scales.
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:26 PM
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Hi there sir!

I'm interested in this one as well!

I do have a 1/72 scale p****** kit of the AC-130H and a 1/48 scale kit of the AC-130U, plus some detail for the individual variants...

first tip though... since the USAF has been updating/modifying these gunpigs for many years already... (especially the AC-130H... the current one is very different compared to how it looked when it first flew many decades ago... and I'm talking about the same airplane here, not some recently made one)

please post any queries, I already collected tons of images (from various sources over the years) to cover most (if not all) of the mods made on these airplanes

thanks so much again for tackling this one!
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Sorry Dave, just a plain 130E, nothing overly special equipment wise. Just the teeth. Chicks dig the Flying Tiger artwork!
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no problem Ray...I do like the sharkmouth artwork...so, if I end up doing a gray version, thats about my best choice!

I'll focus on one or two Gunships first...and then try some C-130s.

And yes, Hans, the choice of gunship is up in the air at the moment.
I am aware of the many changes over the years.
At the moment, I am partial to the first versions, interesting paint schemes,
but I will have to see how the design work goes before i commit to anything.

and by the way everyone is talking, it looks like it may just stay at 1/48 scale.

keep the thoughts coming though...
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how about a battle dammaged version
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