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Old 10-04-2011, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by avro202 View Post

I was the one who started Dave on this project, but I completely missed that he started this thread. Sorry; my excuse is that my other job-hobby (I am the art director for Victory Point Games) has been monopolizing all my spare time for the past couple weeks.

I am one of those people who cant multi-task. I can only focus on one project at a time. ;-)

Hopefully I can get most of my artwork finalized for this weekend. Then I can re-focus on digging up more info on the Autocar.

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Old 10-04-2011, 12:10 PM
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Dear Dave:
How to say it. Go with 1/12 scale and do armor plate as individual plates like in orginal and glue onto Ribs(frames) like rivited in the real thing. Is this Clear like Mud? go for more detail
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:31 PM
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I think 1/25 or 1/12 - either is good for me. I would easily scale down to 1/25.
I am looking forward to being able to build it. As you say Canadian subjects are few and far between.

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:50 AM
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Could always include advice in the instructions on printing out at different scales. To keep every one happy.

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Old 10-06-2011, 02:20 AM
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I think this would be an interesting project. I am quite interested in ships, planes and armored vehicles from the 1880-1920 period. There were a lot of interesting solutions to 'problems'.

I understand your comments reference 1/24 vs. larger scales (1/12 or 1/14 for example). Many folks have brought up arguments for both. I believe the issue may be how much detail work folks want to put into it. 1/25th lends itself to a quick, but somewhat detailed model that is pleasing to the eye and fits well on most open spots on a shelf. A 1/12 scale lends itself to a good amount of detail work and can be quite the conversation piece. It will take a dedicated location on the mantle to display it (yeah, like I'd get away with that). Now, having gone into that lengthy comment I'd be interested in 1/12. If 1/25 is decided upon I think that would please a wider section of the population.

Any specific paint scheme?

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Old 10-06-2011, 07:17 AM
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great responses!!!
I am so please to see some interest in this...its definitely a go ahead project now.
Although...I cannot say how quickly.
Like most of my bigger projects they tend to be slow out the gate,
but at some point they pick up speed.

Anyway, its obvious the general preference is toward the larger scale
for a number of reasons:

Easier to scale a model down than it is to scale it up.
Allows me to design in more structural detail and artwork/textures.
Being a small vehicle, the larger scale gives a more impressive shelf model.

In keeping with other current Military vehicle models, 1/25 scale is the norm.
(At least with the Halinski and GPM kits I have looked at)
But I am just not comfortable with producing this model at that scale.
My modeling style would force me to eliminate a lot of parts and over simplify the construction.
I think its best left to the (experienced) modeller to downscale the kit and deal with
the smaller parts and more difficult assembly., back to the production scale...

I like Miles comment about a "Museum Scale of 1/16".
I don't know much about this, but it sounds impressive.

1/14 offers a slightly larger finished model but still allows
everything to fit on to standard size papers.

1/12 gives a real nice size finished model and allows me full freedom for detail
but I have to split some parts to make them fit on the pages.
(probably just the Chassis Main Frame Rails)

I really don't have problem with any of these choices.
And as Tim says, I can include a quick downscale reference for printing.

Maybe I should do a few more measurements, before I make a decision.
Feel free to continue with suggestions.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:53 AM
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I prefer smaller scales - I'm really enjoying the 1/43rd scale armored cars from allfrompaper, and am working on my 3rd one now. That being said, it's easy to reduce at printing down to whatever scale is desired, so if your design is in a larger scale than the modeler prefers, no biggie. It sounds like you'll be packing a lot of detail into the kit, and if some of the detail parts wind up too small to work with (or even see), in a smaller scale - well, that's the price of miniaturization. 1/12 sounds like a good bet to me. Thanks for taking this on.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:43 AM
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I just had a thought. I'm not sure what the scale would be (1:18 maybe, I dunno), but you could design it to fit those 3 inch action action figures that were so popular a few years back. I seem to remember them having a WWI line of figures (?)
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:21 PM
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Not a huge fan of tanks but may I suggest one peculiar example for your consideration. This is from the early days of trying to motorize the troops - The Model-T Tank!

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:47 PM
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A few things...

Sorry, but I can't find any information or reference to a "Museum Scale"
...especially nothing about a standard 1/16 Museum scale.

I included 1/14 scale in my original list of sizes,
and yet 1/14 does not even appear in the List of Scale Model sizes on Wikipedia**.

I think the choices are the larger 1/12 scale, 1/16 scale or 1/18 scale.
All of which cover some forms of Vehicle Modeling.

12" Action Man/GIJoe/Barbie are basically 1/6 scale (based on a 6ft human)
Therefore 1/12 is roughly a 6" figure and 1/24 is roughly a 3" figure.

1:18 -16.93 mm - Cars made from kits, children's dollhouses. G.I. Joe figures and vehicles is in this scale, although the figures are compatible with 1:16 vehicles rather than 1:18 cars.
1:16 -19.05 mm - Live steam trains (non-ridable), Figures. Ertl's farm and construction machinery
1:13 -23.44 mm - Aurora "Monster Scenes" and "Prehistoric Scenes" Kits.
1:12 -25.40 mm - Action figures, Model cars (static and RC driven), Live steam trains (non-ridable), dollhouses for adult collectors, motorcycle


I think I am going with 1/16 scale or 1/12 scale?
deciding factor will be whether you want the bigger model with a couple of split parts,
or the smaller scale with all parts intact.

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