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Old 05-11-2015, 01:55 PM
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It was suggested to me to construct the windscreen parts in the same manner as the real aircraft (shown earlier).
Using two side panels, and a center panel.

This was in fact, my first idea.

I posted the picture above because it shows the panels before they are covered with putty and paint
and become seamless.
So those panel lines and gaps are not desired in paper parts.

And that photo does not show the compound angles and curves in the panels.
Everything looks a lot smoother in that photo.

Forming paper in more than one direction is very difficult.
We've seen how difficult when forming wing root fairings.
I don't really want to add more of that to my kit.

I also didn't want to cut a larger opening in what is already the weakest part of the fuselage.

I have a couple of test pieces to work with...I'm going to cut one of them up.
And take another look at this idea.
But I think its a lot more complicated than it looks.

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Old 05-11-2015, 03:14 PM
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okay, I like this idea again...thank you Thorst for suggesting I revisit it.

But...I don't think its gonna work.

FIRST problem is the size of the opening I have to cut into the fuselage section.
(in the photo below, you can see the cockpit section still needs to be removed. I left it in place for this test because the part is so flimsy.)
This middle section already is one of the smallest and weakest parts, with large open areas.
Now I am cutting away even more.

And I still I have to introduce tabs or mounting strips to support the new inset windscreen assembly.
(more parts! lol)

Cutting the three sections of the windscreen was easy.
But I am not happy with connecting the three parts at the pillars.

Those pillars should be as thin as possible and should be smooth and rounded.
The seams make them square and sharp ...
and thick (because of connecting tabs underneath)
and its going to be more difficult to cut out the openings for clear windows.



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Fitting the entire assembly into the fuselage is straightforward.

I had to try to preshape to match the fuselage shape.
But keeping the tri-fold shape will not allow the front to curve properly.
And the center windscreen won't stay flat.

I also can't angle the base of the center windscreen
AND match the fuselage curve at the same time.

With some persuasion, and patient gluing, I will eventually get this thing into place.
but I don't think its a better option.

I prefer the simpler approach...
and I think the seam at the base of the windscreen is an acceptable tradeoff.
Especially for a less skilled builder.

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Old 05-11-2015, 03:50 PM
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A fascinating problem. There is always something new to learn about Mustangs.

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Who would have thought. Come on Dave, the engineers at North American seemed to figure it out.

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Yeah, but they used putty and paint...
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Yeah, but they used putty and paint...
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I decided to do another test
and apply the new update to the unreleased Miss Suzi-Q kit.
(which should be in the store in a day or two!)

A quick test build of the cockpit area, and all looks good.

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I love it, that is great Dave!

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I've been sitting on these Mustangs for quite some time.
I have nothing else to release at the moment, so why not publish these?...

It was suggested to me last year to look at Mustangs flown by the Chinese Air Forces after WW2.
And I found the research very interesting.

I'm no expert on Chinese history so I'll stick to the basics I have learned from a few websites...
Chinese Civil War between National and Communist sides have raged since the 1920s.
At the end of WW2, Chinese National forces (fighting with the Allies) acquired a great number of surplus aircraft
including dozens of P51 Mustangs.
Most of these aircraft were in serious disrepair from wartime use and parts were simply none existant.
So, many aircraft were canibalized.

My first model represents a P-51D in CNAC/CNAF livery.
I found a wide variety of paint and markings, but the basic look was stripped metal finish with Nationalist idents.
After looking through many vintage photos I settled on one particular aircraft.





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Shortly after WW2, as the Communist forces took power once again, and overcame the Nationalist forces,
Mustangs were captured and hastily repainted in PLAAF colours and markings.
Most of these aircraft were already damaged or grounded.
Many were used as nothing more than trophies celebrating the communist victories.
There are still two Mustangs on display in Chinese Air Museums.
One of which is in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution, in Beijing.
For a second Chinese Mustang, I have recreated that Mustang since there is good collection of reference photos and videos on the internet:





The kits are finished...PDFs are ready.
Once I get all the store stuff ready, I'll post these two models.
Hopefully later today or tomorrow.
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These are most welcome, Dave!

That Swiss Mustang site (http://www.swissmustangs.ch/20214/20376.html) from which you found the image of 2322 has lots of good photos.

Many thanks for adding these two versions.

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