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Old 06-24-2014, 10:11 AM
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Beautiful work!

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Definitely the gradient windows Dave!

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I like the "new" nose, very sleek. IMHO enhances the Liberator's lines.
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I got to see "Diamond Lil" up close several years ago and got interested in the freight carrying versions of the Liberator from that.

Glad to see you doing this conversion Dave, it's nice to see the lessor known versions of these great planes finally getting representation in the modeling world.
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I got to see "Diamond Lil" up close several years ago and got interested in the freight carrying versions of the Liberator from that.

Glad to see you doing this conversion Dave, it's nice to see the lessor known versions of these great planes finally getting representation in the modeling world.
Me too! It was fun going inside the nose compartment (not sure I was supposed to, hmmm). Granted, that was almost 20 years ago and I was much smaller then and able to hide easier.
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Old 06-28-2014, 08:11 PM
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Diamond Lil is actually an LB30...in fact, if the info is correct, it is the original LB30 that was turned into the C-87 prototype.
But it has since been been remodified back into an LB30 (B24D).

.......................
Anyway, I have not found anything else on the AT-22.
So it seems there is no reason to assume that the outward appearance of the AT-22s is anything different from the C-87s that they were made from.
In other words, the modifications to the C-87 were all internal...Flight Engineer stations (six of them) and facilities for the Instructors and crew.

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So...
I have a C-87 package ready to upload and list.
AND...I have an AT-22 kit ready as well!

Just got to get the files uploaded and the store listings done.

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I've also got a third kit done that I will release shortly after.
Remember that BOAC plane I posted earlier?
I thought it would make a great candidate for another model.



Well, seems this is not a C-87 Liberator Express!

Its actually one of many LB30 (B24A) Liberators that were produced as Transport aircraft
with similar modifications to the C-87.
(No guns, turrets, bomb bay...new nose and tail...modified for supply and equipment transport.)
Unlike the C-87, they don't have passenger seats or passenger windows,,
just some porthole style windows down each side.

...they also didn't have the large rear cargo doors like the C87.
(a smaller set of cargo hatches were built into the bomb bay area.)

Anyway, many of these LB30s were lend-lease to the RAF for supply and transport.
And the RAF hired commercial companies like BOAC to crew and operate the planes.



A lot of these planes went back to the US, and then were repurchased by civilian companies
to continue their work after the war. Even though the war had ended, the work had only just begun.

Anyway...I will also be releasing this BOAC AL507 (LB30)

and I have one more C-87 in mind.
And I have to finish the "memorial" plane I promised to a private customer.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:05 AM
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Dave - Interesting info on the BOAC LB-30. I look forward to seeing the kit. This has been a great historical project. Don
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Thanks Don

I'm trying to retrace and find a link to a Book excerpt, but I can't seem to find it.
Its where I got some valuable info on the LB30 (C-87 style) transport.




Looks like a very good book, I will buy a copy when I can find it.
The book is "Liberators in the Royal Air Force" and it literally has info on every single Liberator
operated by the RAF and in Commonwealth service.
As an information source, the author(s) combed through thousands of Personnel/Crew Log books.

I already have the author's (James Oughton) 90 page book:
Notes, Corrections and Amendments to The Liberator in RAF and Commonwealth Service.
lol

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[Quote I found, re: OL'927/Diamond Lil]
Liberator I AM927 was damaged in transit and was never delivered to the UK as were the other LB-30Bs.
It was returned to Consolidated for repair. During rebuild, an extra four feet was added to the nose of the aircraft.
[This was part of the conversion to C-87 Transport, as this plane was the C-87 prototype]
It was then operated as a company plane.
It was later used as a transport carrying USAAF insignia but still with its original RAF serial on the tail.
For a while after the war, this plane was flown by the Continental Can Company under the civilian registry N1503,
until it was acquired by the Confederate Air Force (now known as the Commemorative Air Force) to be operated as a flying museum.
It now flies with the civilian registry of N12905, painted as a B-24D carrying the name Diamond Lil
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:06 AM
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Good news: It's available from AbeBooks.

Bad news: $199.00 (US)
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This is great news Dave, I look forward to the BOAC LB-30.

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