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Old 06-27-2020, 10:09 AM
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The photos are fine Miles - you are in Australia?
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:48 PM
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Dear Kevin:
Not Down Under but up state New York about 16 miles from Niagara Falls
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:58 PM
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I got your joke Kevin
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We've had a similar discussion before, but I am asking again.
If I was doing a Koolwheelz model of a car with a clear bubble top...



how best to represent the canopy in paper?
or, should I even bother?
I can publish the model with a 2D visible interior on top and leave it up to you to add the canopy...or not.

Yes, its easy to suggest the builder use a clear plastic bubble (either pulled from packaging, or vacuuformed).
But thats a cheat when building a paper model.
The Koolwheelz models are meant to be self-contained if possible.

I have already published a car with no bubble canopy...and included instructions to cut a plastic one.
But it bothers me that there is no other option included in the kit.



So, what I'm saying is "if you had to include some paper parts for the bubbletop, how would you do it?...or how would you like to see it done?"
I'm looking for some viable ideas.

Keep in mind the scale of the Koolwheelz models (about 1/50-1/64).
And...simplification...as few parts as possible make up the entire model,
and it all fits on one sheet.
And...I try to keep it as least complicated as possible. (builder skill level)


Got any ideas?

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A smooth bubble in paper isn't easy...

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The way Sandy Cheeks' clear helmet is handled here seems to get the idea across.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:00 AM
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I thought about the standard petal approach (to a domed bubble)
but petals are the bane of many modelers (including me!)
Getting a petal dome to not be pointed or flat on top, is near to impossible.
Petal design may be too complicated for a Koolwheelz?

Not sure about the Sandy model Doug.
The initial image of Sandy looks promising,
until you discover that the three petal helmet is not very rounded,
and its only the incomplete rear half of the helmet.

Unfortunately, I don't think I can make that work.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:28 AM
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I think you only have two choices for paper domes, petals and conic segments. I prefer the second approach, but working carefully, I get better domes from petals, especially if the circumference is the right size to build around a ball.


Conic segment domes are much easier, at least for me, but only rarely do they look 'round' enough. An example of this is the nose of this sub, https://papermodel.jp/soryu-index.html





Oops. I forgot about spirals, like the Uhu02 globes. I don't have a clue on how he designed those
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:51 AM
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Beatnik Bandit bubbletop (that I showed earlier) isn't round at the base.
Its more squared off...which is easily forced from a round bubble segment.

Problem is, the model I am working on isn't round either.
Or squared.

Its more elliptical egg shaped, wider and more tapered.
The concentric ring idea is favourable to me too...

but I'm not sure I know how to create the parts.
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Old 07-22-2020, 12:02 PM
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You know me and the sledgehammer approach. I would probably download that sub and just build the nose parts and see how close it is, then start playing with his geometry until I get 'close enough' for what I am trying to accomplish. By the time I had it tweaked enough to be useful, it would hardly be his geometry anymore, so it was more a base of an idea rather than stealing his pattern. His pattern won't work without significant changes. And of course you would have to change textures
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