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Old 02-11-2018, 01:53 PM
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Confused about paper.

I purchased one of Johan Scherft models. It calls for "120 gr paper". I cant seem to find this paper online. Does "gr" mean the same as "gsm". In the US I see mostly pound designations for paper. I have card stock that is 65 pound, would that work?

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Old 02-11-2018, 03:47 PM
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Yes, 120 gr is 120 gsm.
65 lb is usually 176-177 gsm which stands for grams per square meter.
HP has some premium presentation paper that is 120 gsm.
HP Premium Presentation Paper 120 gsm/32 lb
You can find it at Office Depot, Staples, Amazon, just to name a few.
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:28 PM
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Dear Lee:
I looked up where in the world you are and see just US. Another way is to look for a fine art supply store that caters to the artist's and watercolor people and look for sketch paper in the 30 to Pound range it will be expensive and come 9in by 12in sizes but the HP paper is not cheep ether.
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:56 PM
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Printing shops often have this paper in bulk-go in and ask.Most of the times you will get few pages for free,sometimes they will even print it for you if you are nice enough.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:04 PM
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Yes, 120 gr is 120 gsm.
65 lb is usually 176-177 gsm which stands for grams per square meter.
HP has some premium presentation paper that is 120 gsm.

You can find it at Office Depot, Staples, Amazon, just to name a few.
I found this at my local staples. Exactly what I was looking for!

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Old 02-11-2018, 05:20 PM
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I have built Johan's birds with 65lb. card stock, without any problems.

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Old 02-12-2018, 09:29 AM
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Personally, I think 120 grammes paper is a bit too thin for paper modelling. For the Papertrade models I have put on Ecardmodels I always advise 'double the weight of normal printing paper' - that solves the problem of European and USA standards. Also easily available, I hope.
For professionally printed models I prefer 180 grammes, but that is not for sale in the shops.
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:15 PM
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I believe I saw a Mustang printed on silver paper recently. It looked great! Anyone have more info? Was looking on Amazon and saw some, but it said that it wasn't laser printer compatible - I am fortunate enough to print my models out at work so would prefer it be compatible.
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:10 PM
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US/Metric Paper Conversions Johan's birds it is important to stick to the paper he recommends as closely as possible.

If you use a thicker paper you will definitely run into problems, as to build the models successfully you have to shape and bend the parts to fit. This will not happen if the paper is too thick.

And yes Leehound, Metric and US paper conversions are a nightmare. Because of this I recently put up a post on the topic to help members of this forum. I hope it will also assist you going forward - I struggled with the same issues for a long time until I cottoned on to the fact that for modellers doing conversions finding a like thickness is the actual key.

Here is the link......

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Old 06-09-2018, 11:25 AM
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I'm totally confused still. I was just at an office supply store in the US and saw a package of COVER stock with a label on the package that read "67 lb - 148 gsm". I also saw a package of CARD stock (same overall sheet size of 8.5 x 11) and the label on that package read "48 lb - 180 gsm". If the weight of the paper listed in units of lb goes down, i.e. from 67 to 48, shouldn't the gsm also go down? In this case it did not. I've read the posts in the forum about paper weights but still don't get it.
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