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Old 03-21-2012, 12:54 PM
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Aaron, as far as formers go, this one if probably one of the simpliest to do since it is (as I recall) symmetrical top & bottom. I recall reading about a fellow who scratchbuilt one from fiberglass by taking two castings from one form, then just used one for the top and the other for the bottom. So, once you've established a profile, it can be 'flipped' top to bottom and left to right (of centerline) to provide for the entire cross section.

AFAIK, there was never any other craft than the fabric covered V-173 prototype (which actually flew and proved the concept) and the "production" prototype from metal, which never did fly. There were no 'jet powered' versions; the intakes on the XF5U-1 were actually for the cooling fans for the embedded radials. The advent of true jets simply "put-paid" to all the cool recip engined designs (Tommy Thomason's "US Naval Air Superiority" tells the story of a Navy test using an F8F Bearcat flown against an F-80 Shooting Star - the speed differential was such that all the Bearcat could do was attempt to 'dodge' the jet's attacks - full defensive tactics since the F-80 could simply disengage at at any time...by speeding off!)
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:43 PM
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Hi all,
ModelArt designer Emil Zarkov created a model of this aircraft. Haven't built it, but it looks very impressive. The prop blades are as long as the wingspan, I think.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:59 PM
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Thanks Charles, and yes I made a plug and molded the canopy and nose. It's a very good kit. The V-173 was the only one to fly the XF5U-1 was finished and made taxi tests but there were overheating trouble and the money ran out so it was never flown. Just such a shame they never flew it, and then to scrap it ? I read a story about the V-173 flying and i think ran out of fuel made an emergency landing on a beach where the pilot found some sun bathers and hit the brakes so hard it flipped. They turned it back over and after minor repairs it flew the same day! story also said that Charles Lindbergh flew it and loved it!.....Rich
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Found 2 more pics....Rich

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Here, if you can't make a model out of this, let me know, I have more info.

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Old 03-21-2012, 09:54 PM
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Here, if you can't make a model out of this, let me know, I have more info.

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I've got the Paul Matt drawings of that bird that are even more detailed.

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Old 03-21-2012, 10:27 PM
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Post them. The drawings I posted are enough those. They show where to place the formers in the model. This model will have to have the surface made in a specific way to be accurate. If you loft it, the formers won fit(in the sense of the commands that Rhino 3D uses).

Post what you got. I'd like to see them. I posted the ones I thought were significant for the fuselage. I have others of the cockpit details, landing gear, etc. I always share whatever info I have. You do do. This could help someone who wanted to tackle it, unless it can be had from Model Arts cheap.
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If Aaron wants them, I'll send them directly.

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I'm not sure I wanna tackle it. I'll leave it up to a more capable designer.

Like Zathros said, you have to get the formers in the right place to get the fuselage right, and I don't use formers.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:43 AM
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Here's the V173, I have build the Dr Zarkov model of the XF5U, It's a realy good model, and indeed a lot of internal formers, sadly mine is faded by the sunlight, from the time I used cheap refills..
He ,Zathros we must have the same source , I have this book;
Chance Vought V-173 and XF5U-1 Flying Pancakes - AviationMegastore.com
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