WWII paper models

[airdave]

I'd love to get copies, but...

niedance...what do you mean you own the originals?
These are "printed" model sheets.
Which means, they are already printed copies of some original artwork.
The printed copies are what is sold to the public.
You own one of the original printed copies?

Or you own the original printers artwork? That would be impressive.
The original artwork generally doesn't get released to the public.
But even if you did purchase the original artwork,
you didn't purchase the rights to make copies and sell them on eBay.
Or sell them here (for "donations").

If you bought one of the original printed editions, the same rules apply.

Unless you somehow own the rights to the original artwork?
I see a distributors name on the sheet...or is it the original publisher?
I'm a little confused.
Maybe you can clear this up before we go any further.


...
From what I know: Dr. M. Matthiesen published books and other paper items by various authors.
They also dealt with documents during the second world war related to the Army and Luftwaffe.
For example, here is a set of Cards (Playing Card Game?) with Military vehicles published during WW2
and created by Dr. Matthiesen: http://www.europeana.eu/portal/recor..._z0021490.html
Seems to be many types of publications and books...including single sheet papermodels of German Forces vehicles.
Planes, Tanks, etc

There appears to be plenty of original printed papermodel sheets still around and available for sale.
But I'm not aware that you can buy one and start printing off copies for sale though unless there is a clearly expired copyright?
Are these items now public domain?
Matthiesen Publishers apparently still exists...I found a 2006 publication with their name on it.

[herky]

Originally Posted by airdave

You probably shouldn't have posted the model like that,
because you just shared it! lol, without permission.
And nice size jpegs too!

But I thank you for sharing with us.
Some of this stuff we just never get to see.
Is that a WW2 produced model?
Or a model of a WW2 German tank produced later?

It looks a lot more complicated than the training models I have seen in WW2 photos.

Is the original post asking about those army issued training models?
Or just papermodels published in that time period?

in my defence the tiger tank i got from someone on here,cant remember who.was not downloaded from ;;DODGY;; sites

[Zakopious]

Other posts like this:
Vintage paper armour models

Papermodels for purposes preparatory to war

[DWest]

Sorry people, I did not mean to get a big copyright discussion going I was only trying to find some authentic WWII paper models or copies of them for my WWII collection.
Thanks everyone,
Dan

[airdave]

You did not start any copyright arguments or discussion.
Not to worry.
But your original question was (in my opinion) a little vague.

You are either looking for models published during that period (like the Matthiesen publications)
or you are looking for those German Military Training/Entertainment papermodels.

It looks like models were being produced for German Soldiers to build, play with, learn from?
I doubt it was meant for training to ID vehicles since the models always seem to be of German vehicles.
Except for this...these are Russian tanks models in these next two pics.



British and US forces used silhouettes to help identify enemy aircraft and vehicles at a distance.

Its possible these models were more for leisure and entertainment.
But in the photos I have seen, the models are usually fairly large scale
and much simpler in design.

My guess is entertainment for Soldiers.
Another thing to help occupy their minds during long bouts of boredom.
And learn how to spot a Russian tank!





Not sure, but I don't think I have seen photos of Allied soldiers messing with papermodels?

Regardless, I would love to get my hands on some original Third Reich paper models!
I wonder if they did any dead chickens?

[airdave]

Wait a second!

These are Hitler Youth playing with Allied Aircraft models!

Do they look like paper models though...or maybe plastic?

[Zakopious]

My guess is that the Hitler Youth have solid wood models of Allied Aircraft models.

See: Free Flight Web Ring

[sparrowhawk]

Those models may be freeware by now. because they are at least 70 years old by now.
Remains the question whether there are any successors to the editor Dr. M. Matthiesen in Berlin who still may own the rights, but I can´t really imagine that.

@ Dave and Zakopius: I think those models were made of cardboard: My father who was born in 1928 told me about them and he mentioned the Wellington visible in the center of the picture. He still had quite detailed memories of those models from building them and I recognize his description of the "Wimpey". Those models were not so much toys, but they were used to hone aircraft recognition skills. IIRC (!) they were even built in school and then given away to the soldiers that learned how to handle the anti-aircraft guns.

[Diderick A. den Bakker]

Originally Posted by DWest

Didn't someone on this forum say they had some scans of real WWII paper models? I can't think of who it was so any help would be appreciated (I'm old and my rememberer does't work to great....lol) Thanks,
Dan.

I have some Mathiesen originals - see my site - Zeist Bouwplaten - Import, verkoop, ontwerp en productie van papieren schaalmodellen, maquettes en bouwplaten (cardmodels), Modelbouw, Rietveld cutoutmodels, pages Aviation > Collectors' Items.
For your information:

Dr. M. Matthiesen, NSFK
From the early '30ties, Germany very actively prepared their youth for a future air force. The "Nationalsozialistiche Fliegerkorps" started glider clubs everywhere (with the well known Grunau baby gliders), training large numbers of future pilots. They also handed out large numbers of free paper models, even to schools: it was important to have as many people as possible able to recognise various types of German and Allied planes. They became invaluable as spotters for anti aircraft batteries.
The models in question were quite good - but had no landing gear: the silhouette in the air was all that counted. Scale 1/33 1/3rd. One sheet each, ca. 50 x 70 cms.

[airdave]

Those models may be freeware by now. because they are at least 70 years old by now.
Remains the question whether there are any successors to the editor Dr. M. Matthiesen in Berlin who still may own the rights, but I can´t really imagine that.

re Scanning, Printing and Sharing (for Donations) of your "original" Matthiesen Model Sheets...

unless we can verify that no copyright or intellectual property rights still exist,
lets refrain from doing that any more.

I checked...."may be" and "can't imagine that" are not legal defenses.
But "chickens" are definitely birds.

...
I guess it makes sense that those aircraft models are indeed paper or card.
But they do look awfully well put together in that photo, don't they?
I would not have argued "made of wood".
But card does make more sense.