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Old 11-16-2011, 03:48 PM
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I'm starting off with the trainer version (I think)

I'm using this 3-view:
Attachment 108133

I think I can pull off the Attack version with minor tweaks (add wingtip tanks, weapons pylons, and the minigun). Unless there are other fuselage differences I'm not seeing.

Gonna do one of each for my 2 versions.
<<some snipped>>
The Super Tweet has a deeper under fuselage to accomodate a greater volume for beefier landing gear & wheels, perhaps more 'gas' tank. Then there is the external armor plate applied to give the engines something to hide behind... so there are a few significant contour changes. Probably easier to go from trainer to attack than vice versa.

Check out Prime Portal image site for some very detailed images of these (and many, many others...)
http://www.primeportal.net/home.htm

Direct to the A-37B archive:
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/ed...37b_dragonfly/
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:28 PM
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I can't tell the difference between the 2. Which version is this one?

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Little hard to tell since most of the difference is in the 'fatter' undersides of the attack Tweet. Obviously, it looks like the trainer since it lacks the tip tanks or minigun in the nose.

Basically, the A-27 had larger engine nacelles (hung down lower; upper contour appears to be the same), and fatter tires - covered by bulged covers on the mains. The rest (tip tanks, minigun, hardpoints, IFR probe, etc.) are pretty much add-ons to the trainer. So, some minor 'stretching' of the nacelles and bit of bulge to the mains and you've pretty well covered it. I found a couple of images that provide a chance to see the (admittedly) subtle difference between the two:

http://www.supertweet.org/wp-content...essna_a37b.jpg

and

http://www.globalaviationresource.co...t/images/2.jpg

You can see the fatter tires and lower profile on the A bird. Less obvious is the lack of a "splitter plate" on the A bird (not really a SP in the usual sense...)

Also, the A bird has 'flip up' intake grills intended to catch FOD (debris) from getting sucked into the intakes. Fairly good picture of one on thePrime Portal site.

The Vector Site has a write up on the Tweet that can help explain some stuff re: the variants.
http://www.vectorsite.net/avtweet.html
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The Comanche and Dornier DO-31 are available now:

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I'm giving up on the CD's. The response has been so underwhelming I didn't even notice one.
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Uhmm I had to wait till today to know for sure if I had the funds for both or jsut one and I do have enough for both CDs.
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Little hard to tell since most of the difference is in the 'fatter' undersides of the attack Tweet. Obviously, it looks like the trainer since it lacks the tip tanks or minigun in the nose.

Basically, the A-27 had larger engine nacelles (hung down lower; upper contour appears to be the same), and fatter tires - covered by bulged covers on the mains. The rest (tip tanks, minigun, hardpoints, IFR probe, etc.) are pretty much add-ons to the trainer. So, some minor 'stretching' of the nacelles and bit of bulge to the mains and you've pretty well covered it. I found a couple of images that provide a chance to see the (admittedly) subtle difference between the two:

http://www.supertweet.org/wp-content...essna_a37b.jpg

and

http://www.globalaviationresource.co...t/images/2.jpg

You can see the fatter tires and lower profile on the A bird. Less obvious is the lack of a "splitter plate" on the A bird (not really a SP in the usual sense...)

Also, the A bird has 'flip up' intake grills intended to catch FOD (debris) from getting sucked into the intakes. Fairly good picture of one on thePrime Portal site.

The Vector Site has a write up on the Tweet that can help explain some stuff re: the variants.
The Cessna T-37/A-37
I think I'm doing a blend of the two. I noticed the USAF trainer doesn't have the strakes(?) on the nose, which the A-bird does. And the 3-view I had shows the bulged main LG covers, strakes, and fatter engines (which I'm not changing, they were a PITA to design), but no wingtip tanks.

I think my model is gonna represent the Tweet in general, and not be tied to a specific model (I will throw in wingtip tanks, weapons pylons, and the minigun fairing on the nose though.)
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:46 AM
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I think I'm doing a blend of the two. I noticed the USAF trainer doesn't have the strakes(?) on the nose, which the A-bird does. And the 3-view I had shows the bulged main LG covers, strakes, and fatter engines (which I'm not changing, they were a PITA to design), but no wingtip tanks.

I think my model is gonna represent the Tweet in general, and not be tied to a specific model (I will throw in wingtip tanks, weapons pylons, and the minigun fairing on the nose though.)
It have the strakes too. They are hidden in the color change, right below the line in the dark blue area.
You can see a little triangular shadow from the strakes beginning to the "U".
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:58 AM
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Uhmm I had to wait till today to know for sure if I had the funds for both or jsut one and I do have enough for both CDs.
Hey Wulph, if you still want to order a CD, send me an pm and I'll make one special for you (if you want both CD's, I'll put both onto one disk to save room.)
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Lot's of high res on Google images: <T-37 cessna tweet> search terms. The T-37A/B had the nose strakes and simple engine inlets. Engines were old-style centrifugal flow compressor turbojets - very tolerant and robust engines (they were capable of eating most runway trash and spitting it out the back - with a few sparks but little damage).

The A-37 had few visible airframe changes other than slightly larger engine nacelles to accommodate the axial flow engines out of a T-38 swapped in for more thrust.

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