NCAJC-Cleopatra shipyard - Page 5

**Don Boose** · #41 08-25-2008, 07:00 PM

It looks terrific, Glen!

Don

**B-Manic** · #42 08-25-2008, 08:28 PM

Lookin good birder. I like your cannons, how many does CLEOPATRA have ?

~Douglas

**birder** · #43 08-25-2008, 08:57 PM

Thank you Don! Douglas, the Cleopatra has quite a few cannon if you count the swivel guns, 12 of those 10 small cannon (nines?) and 26 larger cannon (12 or 14 pounders I'd guess, would be nice if I could read Polish). I'm still working on getting them closer to the right shape for the size, the proto is not right:(, but at least I know I can do it without purchasing them..I like your car frame by the way, very nice building! Lots of builds going on I guess Rick is on to something....

**B-Manic** · #44 08-26-2008, 08:22 AM

Your welcome & thank-you. This may help with the cannon modeling situation. PM me for a clearer PDF version if you like.

~Douglas

**birder** · #45 08-26-2008, 09:39 AM

Thanks Douglas that does help. Does anyone know the poundage on these guns for sure?

**birder** · #46 08-26-2008, 11:43 AM

Chris, check this out;
modelarstwo kartonowe, plastikowe ... :: Zobacz temat - HMS "GRANADO" - Shipyard - relacja

**cjwalas** · #47 08-26-2008, 12:18 PM

Glen, that's great! Bookmarked for further study! Fantastic reference for the build! The Granado kit sure builds into a beautiful model (in the right hands, I'm sure). Those cannon look like a job in themselves. But with my limited experience, it looks like I should probably try a couple of simpler ship kits first. I have a number of Maly Modelarz kits, so maybe I'll work my way up through them first??
many thanks,
Chris

**birder** · #48 08-26-2008, 01:00 PM

The Granado is unusual having mortars for artillery. I think this was a bomb ketch or brig. Someone may need to clarify. I think for a build is about the same as Cleopatra probably.

**Don Boose** · #49 08-26-2008, 01:26 PM

I can't see the pictures at the katonowe site and don't have my maritime references available (I'm working at the Military History Institute Reading Room -- lots of references on Army stuff; a little thin on maritime material), but my understanding is that a bomb ketch would normally have no foremast and minimum rigging forward of the main mast to allow a relatively unimpeded field of fire for the mortar. Of course, most of the rest of the construction of such a vessel would be quite applicable to Cleopatra and other Napoleonic era warships, I presume.

This site concerns the construction of a wooden model of HMS Granado and it has no foremast: JoTiKa Ltd. ~ HM Bomb Vessel Granado Construction Page 10.

Don

**B-Manic** · #50 08-26-2008, 01:37 PM

Here is some info on all eight CLEOPATRAS including armament.

HMS Cleopatra

cheers
~Douglas