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Old 02-20-2008, 04:46 PM
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I agree, Old Troll, and then at the battle of Midway the TBD's lost fighter escort contact, made the torpedo approaches anyway...40+ started out 4 came back. I don't think many, if any torpedos did any significant damage.

The only thing that futile effort did was to get everyone sufficiently pissed off to go back and sink some Japanese ships later.
The reported reality was that the Japanese fighter screen was dragged down to sea level to attack and chase the TBDs this gave the US dive bombers a free kick at the carriers. The dive bombers caught the Japanese carriers in the midst of changing over munitions - the result is well known.

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Old 02-20-2008, 04:50 PM
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Actually the effort wasn't so futile--while the torpedo squadrons made their runs, it drew the Japanese fighters dwon low, allowing the approaching dive bombers to exact their toll undistracted by Zero's. The Devastators were obsolete, but the replacement TBF's flying from Midway fare little better. Torpedo attack soon faded away as a tactic, and the TBM's / TBF's ended up performing mostly ASW depth charge and level bombing attacks.
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:56 PM
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Ah...so even though the TBD's suffered large losses the overall outcome was successful?
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:59 PM
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Oh my, yes - the battle of Midway essentially crippled Japanes naval aviation for the duration of the war. The complete loss of Torpedo Squadron 8 has become the stuff of legend - and a few good movies.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:01 PM
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That's what I like about this forum, there's always history to go along with the modeling.

Very informative group.
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:28 AM
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I would love to have a model of this plane. Anybody seen one this kit or any other of the Devastator for sale anywhere?
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:21 PM
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I've checked the usual sources, papermodelstore,gpm.pl and hobbymodel of pl nothing today. Sometimes ebay has a copy now and again. I may have a well beat up copy somewhere, buildable but definetly showing it's age, pm me if really interested as it is buried under alot of stowage!
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:07 PM
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Someplace, I have a hard copy of a build report that Saul Jacobs (I think) did on this one. It is one of my (many) favorite planes, too, and I would love to give it a try if it ever comes back into print.

I've enjoyed the historical discussion (of course). This has been a busy week for me at the fun that passes for work with me, or else I would have dived in to get a piece of that action.

Incidentally, the current issue of Skyways: The Journal of the Airplane 1920-1940 (No. 85, January 2008) has a five-page spread on the interior layout of the TBD-1. It is the pre-war version, so there may be some differences from the early '42 carrier actions/Coral Sea/Midway version that you are building, Tbolter, but still useful, I think . . . at least worth a long lingering look, even if your interior is already completed.

This issue has a lot of delights: color chips of 1930s-1940s civil aircraft colors, an article about the Panam Dinner Key flying boat terminal (the centerfold is a Sikorsky S-42 cruising low over Miami), an article about 1930s Navy fighters including information on the Curtiss XF13C (the now-it's-a biplane-and-now-it's-a-monoplane fighter) that was discussed in Chris's Lysander thread, and much, much more. Availble in the States for $12.00 plus $3.00 postage from World War I Aeroplanes, Inc., P.O. Box 3235, Poughkeepsie, NY 12603, USA. Not sure how much for overseas purchasers.

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Old 02-21-2008, 04:22 PM
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The cockpit on this kit is rather sparse as with a lot of early Maly's, looks like a somewhat reasonable facsimile at best. It's printed all blue with a crude outline of some instruments...maybe the TBD was really like this. About all I can do without totally redesigning and recoloring the parts is to paint in a little color here and there to add interest.

Might have to close up the canopy (it will still be transparent) on this one.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:08 PM
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I was tempted to mention the Skyways article, but I figured the real thing would be sheer torture compared to the MM interior<G>
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