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Old 06-05-2013, 05:46 PM
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well if someone has to do it, better it be someone with skill.
dammit though...I had this in my secret plan to do list.

I saw one of the Rovers in person (way back, about 1970?).
Was always fascinated by it.
I collected Hot Wheels at that time and wished for a Hot Wheels version.
This has always been one of my favorite vehicles.
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This is a project I will follow with keen interest! And great that it's Apollo 17 - I'm a geologist, and geologists do like Apollo 17!
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:37 PM
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I'm sure that the final result will be well worth the wait. Given the amount of research and attention to detail that you put into your previous Apollo project, I'm sure it will take our breath away.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:48 AM
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This morning, as I was planning out the Rover, I came to 2 things:

1) The scale will be 1/12, per Chris's suggestion.

2) I came up with a method for replicating the floor pans.


The floor panels are similar to corrugated roofing. BUT, in the case of corrugated roofing, they are manufactured by a "rolling" process, which produces a panel where the corrugations extend to the ends of the panels.

In the case of the LRV, the corrugations do not extend to the ends; and were made by stamping them in a die.

So, what would be the best way to replicate them? I tried a little experiment:

Picture 1) I roughed out 3 corrugations; then glued them adjacent to the cutouts.

Picture 2) Place a glue-soaked piece of thin paper over them, and carefully burnish the paper into and over the male and female corrugations.

I suspect that there will be more than a few different and easy techniques that will be used during the course of this project.

Ken
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:25 AM
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That looks good Ken, how did you keep them from sticking? i was thinking wax the mold?......Rich
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:44 PM
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That looks good Ken, how did you keep them from sticking? i was thinking wax the mold?......Rich
The cardboard and paper are glued together to make the floor panels. On the actual floor panels, the female cutouts will be on top, and the male pieces will go on the bottom.

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Old 06-08-2013, 12:52 PM
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Several years back, I started modeling the Lunar Roving Vehicle. I stopped because I realized that there were several aspects of this particular subject that would be insurmountable (at that time). Now of course, this should be alot less mind-bending. Here is how far I got.

Ken
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:50 PM
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Ken, your enthusiam for Apollo knows no bounds, does it?

I will have to search through my hard-drives for the PDFs I have covering the LRV. I'll get back to you on those. I also have 3 very informative books on the subject, which provide some good background:

1. Virtual LM by Scott Sullivan
2. Lunar and Planetary Rovers by Anthony Young (2007)
3. Lunar Rover Manual 1971-1972 by Christopher Riley, David Woods & Philip Dolling (2012)
I Have the Virtual LM by Scott Sullivan (but I cant find it)!!

I ordered the 3rd book, Lunar Rover Manual; Just got that book... WOW! what a great find! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

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Old 06-10-2013, 01:03 PM
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To all,

I must have been drunk when I said I wasn't going to work on another project for awhile.

A couple of weeks ago, I ordered a paper Bird Model from this designer in Europe (cant remember the name now), BUT this guy is an artist!! He has this method for designing his subjects...

He builds/develops a "blank" Bird model with no graphics. Then he paints the bird using watercolor and other techniques to develop a realistic-looking bird. This method ensures that each section lines up with its adjacent sections. Then he carefully cuts out the sections, flattens them out, scans them, and adds tabs etc.... He does beautiful work. There is another thread on the forum describing him and his work.

So, here was my inspiration...

As you might imagine, the LRV wheels are no doubt the most difficult part to replicate. Starting tonight, I will be trying to use the same "Bird" technique to do the wheels. This way, I can use anything I need (air brush, pencils etc) to render the wheels. Shadowing, dust, see-through portions etc, will be done this way. This requires that the wheels do not turn, and that each of the 4 wheels are unique based on how the LRV sits in the sunlight.

Let's see how this goes.... I see no reason why this would not work.

Ken
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I love that you're pushing the limits Ken! Can't wait to see what you come up with. The corrugation idea looks good.
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