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Yes it would take more fuel due to the extra mass of the S-IC than the Falcon 9 first stage, but it would DEFINITELY be worth it. The problem would be, with F-1's (which were not designed to be "throttleable" and not designed for multiple-in-flight restarts. You have to have a deeply throttleable engine with multiple restart capability to perform the kind of "boost-back" burn, reentry burn, and then landing decelerate to hover/landing (basically entering a "hover" right when it touches the ground you could say) required for return-to-launch-site land landings ala Falcon 9. F-1's would have required major redesign in order to do this, as they were non-throttleable and not designed for an airstart or air-restart, let alone multiple restarts in flight. They were designed for ground ignition. The other option would be to add more, smaller engines designed for multiple-mid-air restarts, deeply throttleable, designed to perform the boost-back burn, the reentry burn, and the landing burn, while (perhaps) supplementing the F-1's thrust during flight (which would improve the S-IC's payload to orbit capability, in fact). BUT, it would greatly increase the stage weight and propellant requirements and complexity, as landing gear would also have to be added, etc. The actual S-IC, as it existed for Apollo, would probably be a very poor choice for the "return to launch site vertical landing" recovery method ala SpaceX, BUT, if one were purpose-designing a new stage for that role, it could certainly be optimized to perform that function... Quote:
Perhaps in a couple hundred years, if we've become a common spacefaring society, some historians will dispatch "the Enterprise" to go find and tow those Apollo S-IVB's back to Earth... I'm sure the Smithsonian would be glad to have them... Later! OL J R
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Too bad you didn't have any more pictures. I worked there for some 36+ years and I don't remember what happened to my pictures. I do remember the Saturn V wasn't painted in actual flight colors, but most NASA models were made from conceptual designs. I'm glad they moved most of their exhibits to the Great Lakes Science Center where I think more people will get to see them. Hope you've had a chance to visit one of the rare NASA Glenn open house openings.
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Thanks for the comments. I'm glad it is "wow". Makes me think I am not letting the designers down. Also I'm glad because the real Saturn V is a wow creation. Glad you are enjoying the build. Kevin |
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There is a nice article about the satellite by the BBC in the link below RemoveDebris So hopefully the earth wont end up as depicted in WALL-E |
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Gosh! Even in a photo it looks toweringly impressive. Must have been great to stand next to looking up at it.
I always have to remind myself that in all monster rocket there is only just room for 3 people. Thanks for hunting down the photo. Kevin |
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Yeah! And just that tiny little cone at the top was all that was left when it was all over!
PS: That's a recent photo of the V that I found on the net. I'm glad to see it survived and was moved to the Great Lakes Science Center when the VIC closed. But I remember it being painted in the very simple black and white scheme that you see in the old NASA concept sketches rather than the way it's painted now. No idea what became of the other models that stood along side it. |
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Glad you are enjoying the thread. I too am fascinated by all the stuff people are adding look forward to reading even more Kevin |
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