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Old 02-12-2018, 12:31 PM
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1/48 stage two (part three)

Dear all

continuing on

Next cut out part 2 (x4) but add on 20mm of white card along one long side of each part and glue to the lower part of the ring (see photos below). These replace part 4 (x4) and 5 (x4).

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Now cut of part 3 (x4) except do not cut out the v's of the little tabs, but do cut out the v's of the large tabs (see first photo below). Then glue them to the top of the inside of the ring. If I have typed the sizes correctly these parts will sit exactly above parts 2 and the upper tabs will sit above the top of the ring exactly as they should (and the whole ring will be 3 layers thick). See second photo below.

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Next make 3 tab strips each as long as part 9. The depth of each strip (not counting tabs) is 14.5 mm (crucial measurement) and the tabs were 8mm long. Glue these strips so the top of the strip runs level with the line at the top of the small tabs from part 3. This means that when the tabs of the strip you are gluing are folded in, they will be a 2mm gap between them and the top of part 2 (see photo below)

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Now cut out a former from 2mm thich grey card of diameter 215.5 mm (this is going to sit just inside the bottom of the base skirt on the last set of tabs you have just glued. Cut out part 31(x2) and glue them to the former as shown below

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Now glue into the bottom skirt, printed part face down (the photo below shows the skirt upside down)

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Finally glue the thrust cone onto the former. You need to check that you align the cross beams to match the correct position of the black and white outer of the base skirt. There are some photos below to illustrate this position

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And here are some shots in situ with the interstage

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Of course all of this was because of the J-2 engine protruding. On the real Saturn V the J-2's were level with the bottom of the interstage

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I am soooo pleased with the outcome.

So here is where the 1/48 is now at

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(sorry the last picture is on its side, I rotated it to vertical on my computer before uploading so not sure what else to do)


Kevin
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:52 PM
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you are doing an outstanding build sir have fingers crossed and wishing you all the best WELL DONE
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:43 PM
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What a fascinating and detailed post (I have only quoted the first tiny bit). Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to write it. I learnt such a lot. Got to ask, what do you recommend to read to find out more about Apollo and space flight in general?
Oh there are SO many good books out there... Stages to Saturn is probably one of the best on the Saturn V.

The main book I'll tell you stay away from is Craig Nelson's "Rocket Men"... that book is SO poorly written and has a lot of misinformation or screwed up facts... just pitiful.

Currently I'm finishing up Boris Chertok's four-part seminal history of the Soviet space program from its earliest days through the 70's, "Rockets and People"... each of the volumes is about 400+ pages, so it's not for the faint of heart!

One of the best resources is the "NASA Technical Reports Server" (NTRS). I've downloaded a LOT of the old studies and proposals and stuff on the early space program, particularly WRT the Apollo/Saturn system, and have done (and periodically still do) "study summaries" of them, with respect to the most relevant information for modelers (specifically flying rocket hobbyists but also equally of interest for static models or space history buffs). NASA reports tend to be hundreds of pages of very dry statistics and formulae and I try to condense that down to the most interesting, relevant, and historical subject matter of interest to hobbyists and necessary to create a model and place it in proper historical context...

Check them out if you like... Just look in "Luke's Study" under the "Crew Quarters" section at the bottom of the forum list... Sagitta Cantina - Login

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Old 02-13-2018, 08:48 AM
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Looking impressive, any changes that need to be made to the master or design suggestions to improve the whole just drop me a line sometime. I have only build stage 3 and the command module so far so I know they work, stage two im not sure about.

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Old 02-13-2018, 02:17 PM
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Looking impressive, any changes that need to be made to the master or design suggestions to improve the whole just drop me a line sometime. I have only build stage 3 and the command module so far so I know they work, stage two im not sure about.

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If you're up to it the SLA printed detail could updated beyond the simple panel lines and rivets.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:44 PM
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Looking impressive, any changes that need to be made to the master or design suggestions to improve the whole just drop me a line sometime. I have only build stage 3 and the command module so far so I know they work, stage two im not sure about.

Cheers
Had a quick look around, but the only version of the Saturn V model I liked was the V2.2 Apollo 11 that includes the TINKERED WITH BY LEGAL01 which I presume is still the 1:96 scale.

The 1:48 scale files, aside from mostly being JPG's also look crudely chopped up with no rhyme or reason even harder to figure out how they go together.

Just for fun, since I have access to an 11X17 printer, I printed the stage 1 parts from LEGAL01's file at 125% on plain paper and the internal support rings on 200Lb Card Stock that I usually build with.
I also printed the stage 1 at 100% on the Card Stock, but I think it's gonna be to thick at that scale.

Both of these are just to tinker with, I didn't even bother with printing in color, since only the Flag and USA are colored anyway.
If my math is correct, the 1:96 printed at 125% comes in at 1:76.8 scale?!? So I'll see how both of these come out.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:37 AM
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Smile Apollo engine

Fantastic work. I started to make it too last night. It is inresting for me because i love Apollo.it is my faivorit space maket.l have allways wantet to make it.
When i saw your work i became happy.because i can ask some question when i have problem whith the manual if it is possible. I attached two pic of my engin.😬
I am from iran.unfotunately in my dear country it is toooooooo expencive to print 180 page .So i had to print just 20 pages of Apollo engine..
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:55 AM
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And now after checking the download section here, rather than just the Lower Hudson Valley Paper Model shop, I feel rather sheepish.
But I don't see a 7 1/2 Ft Apollo getting finished by me any time soon. I've still got 3 other projects I'm currently building. I just wondered what the scale looked like in-hand.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:41 AM
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If you're looking for in-depth technical info about the development of the Saturns, CSM and LM -- and the people who made it happen -- it is hard to do better than "Chariots for Apollo: A History of Manned Lunar Spacecraft." It is part of NASA's history series.
https://www.amazon.com/Chariots-Apol...ots+for+Apollo
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:56 PM
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https://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/
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