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Old 06-11-2018, 04:32 PM
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1/24 stage two (minus J-2 engines) photos

Dear all

Though I would indulge in some photos of stage two.

First of all standing vertically on the interstage. The interstage is taking a lot of weight here. Also you will notice the exterior of the rocket is not perfectly smooth. I suspect it is due to the fact that there are so many laminated pieces (and I don't have the skill to do them really well) and the plain white shows up every single bump. The only saving grace is that on the real Saturn V stage two (sometimes) had a spray on insulating foam on the outside which (close up) looks very like what the model looks like. Of course this is just a total fluke on my part.

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Now looking through the interstage (separated from stage two)

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Here are some length-ways shots

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The next few are from the fuel dome end of the stage

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I like the next one as it give some feel of the size. Wernher (out of focus) at the front of the stage, but can you see Gunter?

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Finally two of the interstage attached to stage two

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Hope you enjoyed the photos.


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Old 06-11-2018, 06:16 PM
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Time to put in that 2 story atrium....
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:50 AM
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Neat idea!

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Museum of the moon visit

Dera all

Took a little break the other day and visited the museum of the moon which was visiting Liverpool. (I mentioned the museum of the moon in an earlier post).

So it is a 7m diameter internally lit globe of the moon and it is travelling around the world. In Liverpool it was hung inside the Anglican Cathedral. First of all what a building! Here is a photo from the site UK aerial photography : aerial photos of London England Wales Scotland & UK



Inside is vast and very impressive.

As for the moon it was hung in the first bit of the church. There was various quite music playing and you could just walk around. It was very atmospheric. People were walking underneath and then just lying on the floor looking at it.

Here are some pics I took

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It was about 9.00pm so getting dark in the cathedral and I think the low light added to the atmosphere.

I would definitely see it if you get a chance.

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1/24 stage two-three interstage

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Having got to the top of stage two the next thing was to build the stage two-three interstage (cone shaped).
I had decided to have this as a separate piece.

The pieces are pretty big in real life and also huge to scale

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I needed to use corrugated cardboard to make the rings at the top and bottom (did not have normal card that size and glued segments did not have the strength for that thickness). I did the smaller top ring first. It was quite a challenge for me to get a ring that was only 21mm wide. It needed to glue two together to get some strength

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Next up was the bottom ring which is a lot bigger (but still the same width).

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Having two layers (which was necessary for strength reason) meant the ring "interfered" with the slopping surface of the cone. So to get round this I cut a slightly smaller second ring

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I then added some joining tabs inside (to help strengthen it) and the outer surfaces of the rings.

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I am surprised how strong the cone is given it is only one layer of paper thick and the rings are very thin. I need to consider if it needs more internal strengthening struts in order to take the weight of the rest of the rocket. But first need to make that to see how heavy it is.

here are a couple of photos with Gunter and Wernher to show scale

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Finally one with the interstage on top of stage two which is on top of "the" interstage

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Current model height 3.11 metres (10 ft 3 in)

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Old 06-15-2018, 10:29 AM
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You might need the atrium of the cathedral for displaying the finished product....

Excellent work so far!
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Old 06-15-2018, 02:36 PM
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iv got a spare jig saw if you need it ????? for the celling I mean
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Old 06-16-2018, 05:13 PM
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Sorry to hear about your Mom. Hope she is well on the road to recovery.

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She is, thanks... just takes longer for older folks... OL J R
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:56 PM
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Interesting to see your work on the interstage... here's some photos of some leftover Apollo parts that have been "repurposed"... there's a building made out of one of the interstages at the Space Camp in Huntsville, Alabama, right behind the museum there at the Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC).

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The repurposing of some of the N-1 hardware in the old Soviet Union was in many cases far less glamorous but in ways more inventive...

Like these N-1 heat shield (around the engines, with the 6 holes for the six inner engines they added to the design) turned into a playground and some pavilions...

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Or some other storage sheds or equipment sheds from N-1 parts...
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Or this particularly inventive one... a fairing "petal" (akin the four SLA panels that covered the LM atop the third stage of Saturn V, and joined the Apollo CSM to the third stage) from the L-3 stack atop some of the ubiquitous Soviet latticework interstage truss sections from N-1 as "legs" holding up the panel as a shed roof to make a sort of "carport"...

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And, of course the repurposing of left-over N-1 rocket parts was even more inventive... everything from water towers to houses...

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So, theoretically you could have had an entire N-1 dacha... an N-1 fuel tank home with it's own N-1 water tower behind it, an N-1 gazebo out back, an N-1 picnic shelter made from the first stage grid fins, an N-1 carport, even an N-1 transition section storage shed out back for your lawnmower or snow blower and garden tools...

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I particularly like the picnic shelter made from the grid fins...

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Sad in a way, because this is all flight hardware (or was), but at least it served (in these cases) SOME useful purpose and remains as a testament to the fact that N-1 actually existed and was the culmination of many many thousands of people's hard work and effort... and isn't forgotten...

Later! OL J R
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