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Old 01-29-2020, 01:08 PM
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Life-Size upper thigh former for Neil

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Whilst making the upper thigh former for Buzz (see previous post) I got a bit of a production line going and also made the former for Neil and well as the two mirror image formers for the (to be built) bottom of the torso of Buzz and Neil.

So here is Neil's completed former for the upper thighs

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13782.jpg

This large model has the continual challenge of how to hold the parts together that you are trying to join. Sometimes it is more tricky than others. In the past (at times) I have used so little pegs to hold things in place before gluing

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13853.jpg

However these are just too small and weak for this model and the thigh former. It required bigger stronger bull dog clips

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13854.jpg

So here is the former being glued into place

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13788.jpg

I found this quite a handful. Here is the former fully glued in place

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13789.jpg

So now begins the (very) long task of reinforcing (in the same style as the shins and knees) the upper thighs of Buzz and Neil

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Life-Size upper legs reinforcement

Dear all

So the long haul of reinforcement of the upper legs has started.

To begin with the main former needed the first layer of inner support

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13787.jpg Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13790.jpg

The unusual shape combined with the large size means I need to twist and hold the upper legs at all sorts of strange angles in order to access where I want to place the parts. It has turned out (totally by luck) that the strong cross bar of the former makes this manageable. I am not so sure I could do it without it. Anyway that bit has been completed

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13792.jpg Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13791.jpg

So just the rest of the reinforcing of Buzz's and then Neil's upper legs to go!

Of course this is going to take a while and by and large there is not much to see of this process. However one thing I have learned (which might be of interest of some) is about glue sizes. This is as follows:-

There are already several hundred parts of reinforcement in the model and many (probably) thousands to go. It takes a lot of glue to cover that area. I tend to uses Aleene's tacky glue for reinforcement parts and buy the glue in 8 fl oz size bottles. However due to the volume required, I bought some 16 fl oz bottles (as it is more economical).

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13856.jpg

So what I have found is the 16 fl oz bottles are a bit too wide do a lot of squeezing ( I can feel the strain on my fingers). However what I have discovered is that you can empty the contents of the 16 fl oz bottle into 2 8 fl oz bottles and the glue is just fine even when you get to the bottle of the second bottle. The brief few seconds exposed to the air when "decanting" does not seem to affect the glue.

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First look at the torso

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So whilst the reinforcing of the upper legs is underway I starting thinking about the next stage which is the torso. I started looking at the parts for the 1/4 model and to be honest I just could not picture how this all went together. So I decided to make a very rough version using just ordinary photocopy paper and sellotape.

As I started putting it together it suddenly made sense (to me) that it was made in a similar way as Japanese or Roman armour



(from https://samuraiswords.store/samurai-armor/ )



(from https://costumes.lovetoknow.com/roman-soldier-uniform )

This is the rough version of the torso I made

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13405.jpg

This is the first part of the model which has a difference between Buzz and Neil and it is their right shoulder that is different. Whilst Neil's right shoulder is essentially a mirror image of his left shoulder, Buzz's right shoulder is completely different. So the rough torso also let me understand this shoulder too. The torso contains a number of undulating joins which move from "mountain" to "valley" joins and (I found) doing a rough model really helped understand what was going on.

So will now tackle the real 1/4 torsos whilst still continuing with the reinforcing of the upper legs.

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1/4 torso

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So the slow work on upper thigh reinforcement continues.

As a break from this I started on making the torsos for 1/4 scale models. It might be useful to point out there is a slight discrepancy between the labelling of the parts and the instructions on the torso. In the actual parts, part 4a has "absorbed" what is labeled 4m and 4L on the instructions.

Anyway, I started making both torsos at the same time

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13416.jpg

That is the "rough" torso in the background which I kept referring to so see how the parts angled as they joined.

It is strange moving from the life-size to the 1/4 scale. Everything seems very small on the 1/4 (though they are not small in reality by any stretch of the imagination). The other unusual feeling is how quickly you can built something up. So here is the start of the torsos with Gene for scale

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13417.jpg

Prewrinkling the parts makes it so much easier to line the joins up. I am starting to wonder if it is going to be possible to do the life-size torso without doing this. So here are three of photos during the build of the torsos

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13418.jpg Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13419.jpg Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13420.jpg

Finally the arm and neck formers (called bulkheads in the instructions) added along with the "disks" to make flat where the mission patches and the umbilical connectors will go. Neil is on the left as we look at them.

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13909.jpg

I am starting to be very concerned about just how big a part the torso is going to be in the life-size model. Two concerns I already have is that I will not be able to reach everywhere as I try and build it (which means I will have the break it into at least two parts). The other is can it be made strong enough to support itself, arms, helmut and life support pack?

Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13910.jpg Life-Size Buzz and Neil (enlarged 1/4 Ken West "Apollo Astronauts on the Moon")-sdc13911.jpg

Gently squeezing the torso in various places (as if arms etc where being added) and looking at the view at the above two photos are helps me visualize where the forces are acting and the internal support is necessary.

But there is plenty of time to think about this during the (still ongoing) upper leg reinforcement.

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