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Old 01-06-2022, 02:49 PM
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Looking through the photos, I noticed that I have not shown the black
the black underside of the wings.
I'll make up for it with this. The left wing is shown.
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Old 01-06-2022, 02:52 PM
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Also pictures showing the cooling pipes of the engines,
I would like to add now.
For the tubes I used colored 2mm aluminum wire.
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Old 01-06-2022, 04:21 PM
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How did you glue those on after attaching the thrust nozzles? You are amazing!



EDIT --


Found my error back in post #56 and post #63.


Still, it is fantastic work
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:41 AM
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Flaps / Ailerons

For this assembly I used the last remaining laser cut parts.
The construction is clear from the sketches.
I will attach the ailerons to the wings much later.

At this point I would like to add another point of criticism:

There are small strips on parts V03 and V04,
which are to be connected to the skeleton before attaching the wing top.
As I understand it, this is to allow a certain amount of movement.

In my view, the design falls short here.
As already with the eight flaps of the hold, these small strips of cardboard
can hardly guarantee a mobility over several tests.

Maybe I just read the sketches wrong,
and only these parts of the caps are supposed to be movable?
Anyway, I will fix the whole flaps together with V03 and V04 firmly to the wings.
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Old 01-07-2022, 02:34 PM
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really excellent ... I would like to see it finished.

I have a question: does this model "represent" some specific mission? (I mean if in the box - or somewhere else - it mentions what mission you are trying to "simulate")
or is it just a "general" version of the discovery?

when you see the finished model ... it may help you "find" (try to recognize) the mission most "like" to your model. I mean ... the manual that I create axm moreno "Space-Shuttle-External-Markings", it still does not look like it ... it is an excellent source of information to know in detail what version of the discovery is (in detail of each shuttle, mission by mission, variant by variant).


Last question: it is not a "fault" ... only interpretation of the model ... does the model not have the landing gear caps marked?
even for such a detailed model and so well made..it seems like a missing one to me. something simple to do. (for the designer)

I compare with a real photo ... and the model axm moreno. (I hope it doesn't bother Alfonso)

excellent model and greetings

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Old 01-07-2022, 03:00 PM
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update:
this model is very close to the ninth modification of the Discovery, which flew from 1998 until its final mission. (for more information, in the axm manual there are more)

Something very small that would make it "closer" to the specific model is to draw the "freckle" / "spot" on the face .... this is a black thermal tile JUST below the right window - of the copilot-, the tiles black of the flight windows ... one of them extends (the one below the right window)

..this tiny detail ... is UNIQUE of the discovery (in all its variants it has it). no other shuttle has it.

There are 2 more things that would definitely bring it closer to the exact model ... but they are very "unnecessary" details.
well .. that was my contribution.
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Old 01-07-2022, 03:15 PM
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Thank you for your contributions.

The model represents a general version of the Discovery.

No, the flaps for the landing gear bays are not covered.

The reason for this you would have to ask the designer L. Cherkashin.
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Old 01-07-2022, 05:08 PM
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While having the landing gear doors outlined on the model would be nice (and could easily be added with a fine-tipped marker and a straightedge) once the Orbiter is mounted to the ET and SRBs, you won't see much on the underside anyway.
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Old 01-08-2022, 03:11 AM
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Yes, that's how I see it, too.
The model will not stand vertically later because of the great weight, but probably hang horizontally.
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Guten Abend, Herr Pirling!
Ich möchte meine Bewunderung für Ihr Können und Ihre Geduld ausdrücken,
die Sie am Beispiel unseres Papiershuttles demonstrieren!
Und lassen Sie mich einige Ihrer Kommentare beantworten.
Offensichtlich ist das Problem, mit dem Sie von Anfang an konfrontiert waren, die Feuchtigkeit.
Der Einfluss auf das Papierverhalten ist bei Kleinteilen vernachlässigbar.
Zweidimensionale lineare Verformungen großer Teile der Struktur
(insbesondere bei kombinierter Verwendung von Materialien unterschiedlicher Dicke und Dichte)
ein Problem werden. Ihre Beobachtung, dass die Rahmen durchfallen,
und die obenliegenden Ringe am Booster-Zylinder nicht verschlissen sind, zeugt davon.
Daher finden wir es einfacher, dem Rahmen einen Streifen Seidenpapier hinzuzufügen.
als den Überschuss davon abzuschneiden. Auf Overlay-Ringe aus dicker Pappe sollten wir fortan verzichten.
Über die Leisten zur Befestigung der Türen des Laderaums und der Schilde der Höhenruder.
Es tut mir leid, dass die Anleitung an manchen Stellen zu lakonisch ist. Es ist notwendig, die Art des Materials weiter zu spezifizieren
für solche Fälle. Dafür eignet sich am besten ein starker, dünner Stoff oder doppelseitiges Klebeband.
Mit besten Grüßen

I want to express my admiration for your skill and patience,
which you demonstrate on the example of our shuttle paper Shuttle!
And let me answer some of your comments.
Obviously, the problem you faced from the very beginning is humidity.
Its effect on paper behavior is negligible for small parts.
However, two-dimensional linear deformations of large parts of the structure
(especially when combined use of materials of different thickness and density)
become a problem. Your observation that the frames are falling through,
and the overhead rings are not worn on the booster cylinder, testifies to this.
Therefore, we find it easier to add a strip of tissue paper to the frame,
than to cut off excess from it. We should henceforth avoid using overlay rings made of thick cardboard.
About the strips for fastening the doors of the cargo compartment and the shields of the elevones.
I am sorry that the instructions are too laconic in places. It is necessary to further specify the type of material
for cases like this. A strong, thin fabric or double-sided scotch tape is best suited for this.

Regards

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