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Old 12-09-2011, 09:19 PM
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Can some one help me?

Hello again, I could use some help. I've been looking for a German U-boat, specifically the Type XXIII. Simply because its nickname is the "Elektroboot". Its basically the first Hydrogen Peroxide powered U-boat. Plus, I haven't built any submarines or ANY nautical ships. I hope this will be my first. Any help is appreciated.



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P.S. This is just the type I would LIKE to build. Really any type of U-boat would be great.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:32 PM
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I am not too familiar with models dealing with ships/watercraft, however, there are three different U-boats (Type VII) sold on Chris' site, Ecardmodels. ECardmodels.com Shop

I don't know of any other U-boat models myself, especially as specific as the Type XXIII. I'm sure someone will come on in and have a more definite answer for you for the type you want to build.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:58 PM
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A slight amendment to your post, if I may, Spacemen1969.

I'm not certain how accurate "modern" (post 1990) information is, But the info in my hands puts matters somewhat as follows, allowing for a bit of paraphrasing.
{Please don't think I'm trying to nit-pick or rivet-count: neither is the case, it's just that it's not the first time I've seen the Type XXIII erroneously named "Elektroboot" in print.}

Type XXI (21) was the "Elektroboot" due to having battery capacity far in excess (almost three times greater than that) of any prior Kreigsmarine U-boot class. This was because the XXI hull had originally been designed with provision for the Walter "Ingolin" Hydrogen Peroxide closed-cycle engine intended for both the Type XXI and the Type XXIII, through to Type XXVIII.
Most of the Types after Type XXIII remained paper projects only.

There is anecdotal evidence to suggest the Type XXIII received the unofficial German nickname "Meteor" or "Meteorite" which is why the Royal Navy named it's captured test example HMS Meteorite.
At any rate, the British proved they could neither maintain nor successfully run that vessel, decided the Ingolin Technology was "obsolete" and thus scrapped the only known (if I recall correctly) surviving example of the Type XXIII. Records show the British did achieve the then (1946 or 1947) phenomenally high underwater speed of 22 to 25 knots or so, in HMS Meteorite.

Such a high submerged speed by a manned vessel was not to be again achieved until the advent of the American Albacore and Skipjack classes of submarines some ten or fifteen years later, and which proved capable of speeds comfortably in excess of 25 knots, sometimes as high as 40 knots.

A long way off topic, perhaps, and I hope I'm forgiven that.
However, the Ingolin U-boots and their descendants and offshoots (either Western or Russian) have long been of great interest to me.

The Russian "Whiskey I" class and "Sierra I" classes both take their hull forms from the Type XXI, as does the British Oberon and the French Daphne classes. So far as I am aware, all of those classes are now many years retired.

The USS Nautilus is basically an oversized Type XXI with the nuclear powerplant replacing the Ingolin powerplant of the Type XXI.

I hope the info is of interest and help to you, Spacemen1969.

Kind and Respectful Regards, Uyraell.

Last edited by Uyraell; 12-13-2011 at 12:12 AM. Reason: Typographic error.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:34 PM
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Hmm thanks for the info Uyraell. And sorry about that. When I was typing the thread I didn't mean to put two extra " I "s. What I really meant was the XXI. Was just I a rush.


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Old 12-13-2011, 10:11 PM
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I hope the little bit of info is helpful, Spacemen1969.

As for typing in a rush: well, I too have been in that situation, so I completely understand.

Kind and Respectful Regards Spacemen1969, Uyraell.
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