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[papiro]

Hi "hot fingers" he he !
You never stop to construct and we never stop to enjoy !
CAD are a fabulous tool but for the same reason a little complex, thanks for show us the progress of your work.
Saludazos

[Don Boose]

Regarding technical terms of naval architecture, was it the "tumorous sort of piece" or the "doodadage" that confused you, Dan?

But seriously folks, I'm enjoying your description, Carl, and learning a lot from it.

Don

[Golden Bear]

I've decided not to include camber on the decks... the tumblehome, such as it is on these ships, is there.

As for obscure naval terms, here is a photo that explains things!


Carl

[dansls1]

I once tried to learn about ship nomenclature, but couldn't get past the poopdeck. Perhaps that's because I was 11...

Carl - sorry to hijack. I do enjoy seeing your work, even if the subject matter of these early ships isn't the most interesting topic for me - your talent at both designing and building keep me coming back for hints and general enjoyment

[Golden Bear]

Huh? I didn't notice a hijack. I needed to straighten out Don on the definition of doodadage. Anybody's welcome in my threads and welcome to talk about almost anything... particularly if they're nice about my work (we bears ARE vain creatures).


Carl

[shrike]

doodadge is the nautical version of greeblage

[Greg S.]

GB:

You may want to hold off on the "doodadage." If I am not mistaken, "doodadage" was a feature of the near sister Republique class but not a feature of the Democraties.

The Democraties had a secondary battery of 10-7.5 inch guns, disposed in 6 single mounts in turrets and 4 at the waist (2 forward & 2 astern).

The Republiques, which were almost identical in appearance, had a secondary battery of 18-6.4 inch guns, disposed in 6 dual mounts in turrets and 6 at the waist (2 forward & 4 astern).

Linoleum decks, you say? Darn, I used gray steel!

[Don Boose]

Leaving aside the presence or absence of doodadage on specific ships of the class, I appreciate the illustrated explanation.

Anybody know when they began using linoleum on decks?

Don

[CharlieC]

Originally Posted by boosed

Leaving aside the presence or absence of doodadage on specific ships of the class, I appreciate the illustrated explanation.

Anybody know when they began using linoleum on decks?

Don

Not exactly but I can give limits - linoleum was patented in 1860 and the first factory was set up in Scotland in 1864. The first manufacture in USA was in 1874.

I'd guess the earliest use in warships would have been in the 1870s.

(More digging - the Wespe class gunboats used linoleum covered decks in 1876.)

Regards,

Charlie

[Golden Bear]

Originally Posted by Greg S.

GB:

You may want to hold off on the "doodadage." If I am not mistaken, "doodadage" was a feature of the near sister Republique class but not a feature of the Democraties.

The Democraties had a secondary battery of 10-7.5 inch guns, disposed in 6 single mounts in turrets and 4 at the waist (2 forward & 2 astern).

The Republiques, which were almost identical in appearance, had a secondary battery of 18-6.4 inch guns, disposed in 6 dual mounts in turrets and 6 at the waist (2 forward & 4 astern).

Linoleum decks, you say? Darn, I used gray steel!

Ah! You didn't read my post carefully! Or I wrote poorly? Anyway the Doodadage was included for you since I think that you are actually working on the Republiques. You'll notice that my model does not show them... or the tumorous gun mounting.

I have quite a detailed history of linoleum in the French Navy from an article by Luc Feron. However, he does not pin down the first use. Linoleum was invented about 1860 by an Englishman named Walton. The first official notes date to 1898 but the d'Entrecateaux of 1893 specified lino for various decks. It appears on decks in photos of various ships from the 1890s. BTW the article comments that it was of a brown color resulting from its components. I'll probably brown up my own for this build.

Here is a photo from Justice that clearly shows linoleum around one of the secondary turrets.


Carl